Western North Carolina
Posted 25 July 2011 - 01:09 PM
Posted 25 July 2011 - 01:40 PM
I didn't catch that you were looking for ID's on the others, but I'll just be part of the chorus at this point. And as Gerald pointed out, that may be a smoky dace.
Posted 25 July 2011 - 02:04 PM
If he who walks the creek will say where he was exactly it would help. No need to be so discreet... lots of nice NC waters and these are NOT listed species.
Posted 25 July 2011 - 04:27 PM
I appreciate you guys trying to solve this with me. My computer is acting really slow since I got back. I should be able to post a video of this little critter soon on youtube. That may help.
Edited by Drew, 06 May 2012 - 09:06 PM.
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 04:31 PM
Santeetlah Cr runs into Santeetlah Lake, then into Cheoah R and then into Little Tenn R just before it flows across the NC/TN border. NC-DWQ's fish records from the Little Tenn include Etheo. chlorobranchium, vulneratum, gutselli and zonale. No redlines reported. E.chlorobranchium was found at many sites; vulneratum at only two sites, neither of which is in Graham Co.
Edited by gerald, 25 July 2011 - 04:42 PM.
Posted 25 July 2011 - 10:06 PM
Can someone tell me what the behavior is at the end of the clip where the male (?) appears to be slapping his tail on the rock?
Is he fertilizing eggs on the rock?
Edited by Creekwalker, 25 July 2011 - 10:06 PM.
Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:03 AM
As the Snorkelmeister (Casper) said, let the fish come to you, they will eventually investigate you if you give them time. It's the rookie exuberance mistake, I guess, also known as "The Blair Fish Project" We all do it to start because you're so excited about it, and film just extenuates the effect.
One trick, with minnows in particular, is to mount your feet in some rocks or bank and look downstream. You'll see the real party is at your downstream end!
Posted 26 July 2011 - 08:34 AM
looks like the cameras video is working pretty good for you. Try to lock yourself in, keep the camera steady. Move smoothly. Sometimes we will find a good spot and plant the camera and walk away. I like building my own amplitheatre and letting all the darters come to me. I design the set and they perform.
Its fun to see you starting to scratch the surface, well just below the surface. That is what got us all excited when we first put our masks on.
Posted 26 July 2011 - 10:34 AM
The greenfin darter video was a prime example. I was at the surface in a deep pool so the current was pushing me and I couldn't plant my feet. Thus the game of chase we played.
Oh, and I forgot to mention managing the 5 & 7 year olds topside. I think I need some "daddy time" to chill out in the creeks.
Edited by Creekwalker, 26 July 2011 - 10:35 AM.
Posted 29 July 2011 - 11:25 AM
Yes, floating is the hardest photography and filming you can do. Best to find the places where you can plant yourself and work from there. Many times I will plant my feet on rocks or logs or the bank and tether in the flow facing downstream. You'll see a lot this way. Maybe not greenfins (they're work no matter how you slice it), but most other things this works very well. The fish are curious and they'll come to see you. You can scratch at the bottom too, they will come investigate that.
And yes, it's difficult enough to get a good shot of the fish on its own, much less watching the kids.... Although I think it's absolutely awesome that you're doing this with your kids, so I don't want that to end But every now and then, some Daddy alone time would be a good thing!
Posted 14 August 2011 - 03:01 PM
I tried snorkeling in the North River which is a tributary of the Tellico. The visibility was low compare to Santeetlah Creek. I suspect that they have a lot of run-off from the forest service road that runs along it. Not enough veg. buffer?
I stayed out of the Tellico. I was put off by the amount of sediment on the bottom and the development at Green Cove. Was worried about E.coli with all the horses and septic systems.
Had another great day in Santeetlah creek aside form almost knocking my teeth out body surfing rapids.
I got some better videos that I will post on youtube later on. Here are some screen captures from my videos. Two of the pics are of the darter that I keep seeing. Maybe these pics will help with the i.d.? I did stare one down face to face in very shallow water. There was a blue fluorescent stripe above each eye about 1/4" long running north south. Eyes are orange/red.
Also there is a shiner I see a lot. It has a yellow iridescent stripe down the side that changes color depending on the angle. The mouth is a bit red. Help with I.d. would be great. I assumed it was a saffron shiner, but not sure.
Edited by Creekwalker, 14 August 2011 - 03:01 PM.
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