NC Fishes and Field Trips Discussion
#1
Posted 06 February 2007 - 05:45 PM
Atlantic Basins..........Tenn/Ohio Basins
Dan/Roanoke................Toe/Nolichucky
Neuse...........................Watauga
Cape Fear.....................New/Kanawha
Waccamaw
Lumber
Yadkin/PeeDee
Catawba
Broad
NC Fish Species We Might Catch on Field Trips:
SEE GERALD'S UPDATED POST BELOW, MAY 9
Gerald Pottern
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Hangin' on the Neuse
"Taxonomy is the diaper used to organize the mess of evolution into discrete packages" - M.Sandel
#2
Posted 06 February 2007 - 06:08 PM
I agree with Todd - 20 long (30 inches) min size for a group of 6 or 8 adult crescents. if too few fish, then somebody may get picked on too much -- more fish diffuses aggression, like tropical barbs. Ive never seen quite that much color (as Todd's photos) on a 2-inch crescent, the lipstick pink ones i see are more like 3+ inch. But even 1 -2 inch juvies are quite nice with irridescent pink highlights and red lips, fins. And theyll breed in a tray of coarse gravel, no chub needed. common in the Dan R tribs near Greensboro. -- gerald
They'd beat each other up, males are going to have spatial territories larger than that. But... This is a Luxilus you can get away with in 20 long.
Todd
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Gerald Pottern
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Hangin' on the Neuse
"Taxonomy is the diaper used to organize the mess of evolution into discrete packages" - M.Sandel
#3
Posted 07 February 2007 - 09:07 AM
Some more eye candy...
Pinewoods shiner: http://nomy.org/nanf...urus/matutinus/
Saffron shiner: http://nomy.org/nanf...affron.jpg.html (does it no justice)
NC Style longnose dace:
http://nomy.org/nanf...sedace.jpg.html (monster!)
Greenfin darter:
http://nomy.org/nanf...hlorobranchium/ (not in color)
Redline darter: http://nomy.org/nanf...a/rufilineatum/
Swannanoa darter: http://nomy.org/nanf...toma/swannanoa/
Banded darter: http://nomy.org/nanf...eostoma/zonale/
Gilt darter: http://nomy.org/nanf...percina/evides/
Roanoke darter: http://nomy.org/nanf...ercina/roanoka/
Todd
#4
Posted 07 February 2007 - 09:10 AM
The Nolichucky.... Duh! I was wondering how we were going to easily get to the Tennesee species.
The Watauga too.
Chesapeake Bay
Baltimore, MD
#5
Posted 07 February 2007 - 09:19 AM
Dustin Smith
At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
Lexington, SC
#6
Posted 10 February 2007 - 05:29 PM
Dustin Smith
At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
Lexington, SC
#7
Posted 10 February 2007 - 05:58 PM
Also, what type licenses, etc. will be needed to collect and keep the fish we collect?
Dustin, just posted this document by Gerald, should have the information others are looking for : http://forum.nanfa.o...?showtopic=1193
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Juvenal
#8
Posted 16 February 2007 - 02:21 PM
Which limits collecting in a lot of the higher mountain counties.
#9
Posted 16 February 2007 - 08:12 PM
Also it's worth noting that collecting fishes out of trout streams in NC is virtually illegal.
Which limits collecting in a lot of the higher mountain counties.
I assume this will be taken care of via scientific collecting permits or an agreement with NC fisheries people.
Dustin Smith
At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
Lexington, SC
#10
Posted 18 February 2007 - 01:46 PM
I live near Asheville and looked into getting a scientific collecting permit so I could dip net around in the trout streams I fish.
Too much hassle as the permit is really designed for serious scientific and research purposes.
This is just a reminder to people who might think of collecting on their own.
Got a fishing license, you are good to go almost everywhere except trout streams.
If it wasn't for the restriction on collecting in 'trout streams', NC's fish collection laws would be great.
Just a basic inland fishing license or a special fishing device license is all you need for most aquaria collecting.
#11
Posted 21 February 2007 - 03:07 PM
see this link for Trout Stream Maps: http://www.ncwildlif...ishing/pg3a.htm
Gerald
I would think so.
I live near Asheville and looked into getting a scientific collecting permit so I could dip net around in the trout streams I fish.
Too much hassle as the permit is really designed for serious scientific and research purposes.
This is just a reminder to people who might think of collecting on their own.
Got a fishing license, you are good to go almost everywhere except trout streams.
If it wasn't for the restriction on collecting in 'trout streams', NC's fish collection laws would be great.
Just a basic inland fishing license or a special fishing device license is all you need for most aquaria collecting.
Gerald Pottern
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Hangin' on the Neuse
"Taxonomy is the diaper used to organize the mess of evolution into discrete packages" - M.Sandel
#12
Posted 09 May 2007 - 05:06 PM
We have tentative plans for six trips in different directions from Greensboro. Not sure yet how many trips will be offered each day - will depend on how many folks attend. We'd like some feedback on which trips will interest the most people. The farthest ones (C=mountains and F=Lake Waccamaw) are about 3 hrs drive from Greensboro.
Collecting Trips - River Basins, Counties
A. (E) Haw, Hyco, Flat, Tar, Eno.. Counties: Alamance, Caswell, Person, Granville, Orange
B. (NW) Haw, Dan, Yadkin, Little (New).. Counties: Guilford, Rockingham, Stokes, Surry, Alleghany
C. (W) S.ForkNew, Watauga, Toe, Johns, Yadkin.. Counties: Ashe, Watauga, Avery, Caldwell, Wilkes
D. (SW) S.Yadkin, S.Fork Catawba, First Broad.. Counties: Iredell, Catawba, Burke, Cleveland
E. (S) Uwharrie, Little (PeeDee), Lumber, Deep.. Counties: Richmond, Moore, Montgomery, Randolph
F. (SE) Lumber, Waccamaw.. Counties: Columbus, Robeson, Scotland, Richmond
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Gerald Pottern
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Hangin' on the Neuse
"Taxonomy is the diaper used to organize the mess of evolution into discrete packages" - M.Sandel
#13
Posted 09 May 2007 - 09:52 PM
Fritz
#14
Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:25 PM
we would also like some feedback if you plan on doing 2 days of trips or 1.
Fritz
Excellent work guys. Thanks for putting everything together including the list. I'll be in the water two days but not exactly sure where yet.
#15
Posted 10 May 2007 - 12:15 AM
Excellent work guys. Thanks for putting everything together including the list. I'll be in the water two days but not exactly sure where yet.
My son Shawn and I will be doing 2 days of collecting. I like the fact you have listed the trips early so we can get an idea of which ones would be best.
Thanks,
Bill F.
#16
Posted 10 May 2007 - 06:35 AM
2 days
kanawha darter I'm coming for you.
lets hope we dont run out of pygmy sunnies
-Robert Godzinski
#17
Posted 10 May 2007 - 01:46 PM
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Juvenal
#18
Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:37 PM
I second that.2 days here and I'm interested in C & E
Derek Wheaton
On a mountain overlooking the North Fork Roanoke River on one side, the New River Valley on the other, and a few minutes away from the James River watershed...the good life...
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#19
Posted 10 May 2007 - 05:01 PM
Mohawk-Hudson Watershed
Schenectady NY
#20
Posted 12 May 2007 - 07:28 AM
Dustin Smith
At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
Lexington, SC