If anyone has photos of breeding pairs of blacktail shiners (Cyprinella venusta) I'd be very interested in them. I am trying to get an idea of how distinctive sex differences are and especially views of males in breeding colors and with tubercles.
Is anyone keeping/breeding blacktail shiners?
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, Feb 14 2014 03:10 PM
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Michael Wolfe
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Posted 14 February 2014 - 09:18 PM
Not keeping or breeding these bruisers, but here is an individual from a Flint River, Georgia trip showing a tubercles male...
And a photo that many folks wouldn't normally think was a good one, but is a sort of interesting look at the tubercules...
And a photo that many folks wouldn't normally think was a good one, but is a sort of interesting look at the tubercules...
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Posted 15 February 2014 - 12:20 PM
Venusta.
I like saying that.
Nice photos Michael and i agree with "bruisers" as they can be quite big.
Fairly common i see them most often in the lower stretch of the Conasauga near 411. Not so at the snorkel hole upstream oddly. Though without color they are elegant tipped in white as Michael's photos show. Maybe a hint of pearlesence with a bit of frosting. They are fast and difficult to catch, at least the primo males and attempts to herd into a seine while snorkeling. They do well in captivity / cement pond.
Good luck with your study. A common but seemingly unappreciated Shiner.
I like saying that.
Nice photos Michael and i agree with "bruisers" as they can be quite big.
Fairly common i see them most often in the lower stretch of the Conasauga near 411. Not so at the snorkel hole upstream oddly. Though without color they are elegant tipped in white as Michael's photos show. Maybe a hint of pearlesence with a bit of frosting. They are fast and difficult to catch, at least the primo males and attempts to herd into a seine while snorkeling. They do well in captivity / cement pond.
Good luck with your study. A common but seemingly unappreciated Shiner.
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Michael Wolfe
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Posted 15 February 2014 - 02:58 PM
Totally agree with Casper on the "pearlesence" comment if you go to the gallery archive and look at the full size version of that top picture, you can see a green and pink and blue shimmer to that particular male. I also agree that you can see them but not seine them... they are fast FAST F A S T and strong. That day we snorkeled with what seemed to be a hundred, and we could run the seine through there and catch 4-5 juveniles.
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Michael Wolfe
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Posted 16 February 2014 - 02:53 PM
That would probably work, they are plenty aggressive and I have seen plenty of Cyprinella strike stuff floating or coming at them in the current.
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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:03 AM
Thanks everyone for the responses. These pictures are helpful - nice tubercles! We have had pretty good luck seining these and can get a fairly large catch at our sites on the Leaf River in Mississippi. I do think it is accurate to say that the bigger ones are very fast and hard to catch. We are pretty proficient at catching smaller ones including young-of-the-year. So many tiny shiners...!
For a pretty good study on this species, I have been referring to the thesis linked below.
Thanks again.
http://etd.auburn.ed...andle/10415/289
Bill
For a pretty good study on this species, I have been referring to the thesis linked below.
Thanks again.
http://etd.auburn.ed...andle/10415/289
Bill
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