


From a small, urban stream in Greenwood County, SC. Water temp 70F.
Posted 12 April 2015 - 05:39 PM
Posted 12 April 2015 - 06:43 PM
Posted 13 April 2015 - 06:57 AM
They don't go all black like Johnnys?
The member formerly known as Skipjack
Posted 13 April 2015 - 10:37 AM
Nope, tessies get speckled. In the upper Neuse/Tar and parts of Roanoke where their ranges overlap, male breeding color is the only "easy" way to distinguish them from Johnny, for me anyway. They may actually be intergrades in those basins.
Gerald Pottern
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Hangin' on the Neuse
"Taxonomy is the diaper used to organize the mess of evolution into discrete packages" - M.Sandel
Posted 16 April 2015 - 12:54 PM
So the square spots are breeding colors? good to know. I seen tesses as everything from nearly invisible to heavilly mottled and was not sure what each color meant. Yes, these two photos are the same species.
Posted 17 April 2015 - 09:11 AM
In tesselated darters, its mainly the darkening pattern (tesselation) in the fins that changes in breeding condition. The head and body markings may darken a little too, but not like Johnnys. It's the dorsal and caudal fin pigment that is most noticeable.
Gerald Pottern
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Hangin' on the Neuse
"Taxonomy is the diaper used to organize the mess of evolution into discrete packages" - M.Sandel
Posted 17 April 2015 - 09:27 AM
Josh, most of your coloration difference if likely from substrate color difference, rather than spawning color.
The member formerly known as Skipjack
Posted 18 April 2015 - 04:04 AM
Definitely looks like substrate-related color variation. I haven't seen tesselated darters, but I've seen Johnny darters go from nearly white to nearly black when shifted between substrates, and then go right back. Most bottom-sitting fish seem to be able to alter their coloration quite well.
I kinda wonder, though, how do the fish know if they're the right color? Can they see themselves?
Posted 18 April 2015 - 05:24 AM
Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:04 PM
I can feel that, though. I don't think a fish can check his color to be sure he blends in. Did all the ones who couldn't blend right just get eaten?
Maybe the color changing is a subconscious thing and the brain just knows how to trigger all the chromatophores to match whatever the eyes are seeing.
Posted 19 April 2015 - 09:48 AM
Posted 19 April 2015 - 10:09 AM
What I was saying is more that you don't have to see your finger to know where it was going. The fish can see the substrate. He doesn't need to see himself. He matches the substrate he sees.
That would be a great experiment. Little virtual reality goggles for a darter. And see if he changes color based on what he sees.
We need a like button. I wonder if our software offers that? It would save a lot of useless posts like mine here.
The member formerly known as Skipjack
Posted 19 April 2015 - 09:45 PM
Yup I think that's it. Awhile ago Michael posted pix of fish that had turned orange in a Home Depot bucket.
Maybe the color changing is a subconscious thing and the brain just knows how to trigger all the chromatophores to match whatever the eyes are seeing.
Gerald Pottern
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Hangin' on the Neuse
"Taxonomy is the diaper used to organize the mess of evolution into discrete packages" - M.Sandel
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