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#1 NotCousteau

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 01:29 AM

Hi All,

I'm posting this post for someone else from another forum. What are your thoughts on ID? Melanistic? Warmouth?


I caught this fish while fishing today. I'm not sure what kind it is. This pond has thousands of some type of very light colored sunfish and this fish right in the middle of them all. I thought he might be a green sunfish, but I don't think thats it. Maybe some freak genetic mutation? Whatever it is, it's one beautiful fish. Any ideas? BTW It's about 4-5 inches long. The pic with the ziplock is a gallon ziplock for size reference.

I'm almost 100% sure its some form of sunfish. It has the black dot on the side just like the rest of the fish in the pond and was swimming with them all. Here are two other fish I caught in the same group. This dark fish i'm sure is the same kind as these two. It's hard to tell in the pic but its the same type. Unfortunately Arizona does not allow keeping or transporting native fish, so he went back into the pond after a few pics. He wasn't in the shade, there isn't a whole lot of shade in this pond.

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#2 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 03:49 AM

Looks like a bluegill to me. I don't know why it's so dark. I don't think I've seen one like that before. The bottom 2 are also bluegill.

#3 Sean Phillips

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 06:07 AM

Hmm, maybe a hybrid sunfish? It looks a little bit long to be a lure bluegill and both greens and Warmouth have large bass-like mouths in my experience with them.
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#4 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 06:31 AM

Melanistic bluegill?


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#5 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 07:37 AM

I dont think his mouth is that big... and the caudal peduncle length looks the same on all three fish... and in the second picture he even has the sky blue jaw line... the blue gill...


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#6 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 08:00 AM

I have seen some sunfish go nearly that dark when near death. However they were also very listless and certainly would not feed.


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#7 Leo1234

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 09:07 AM

My large coppernose bluegill has been an black-purple with dark red fins his entire life after he was large enough to have color. (actually, now that I think about it he looks very similar in color to the 1st sunfish on the list.)



#8 rc6750

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 04:09 PM

In my experience Bluegill vary widely in coloring - but yes they get very dark

 

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#9 NotCousteau

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Posted 18 May 2015 - 05:42 PM

In my experience Bluegill vary widely in coloring - but yes they get very dark

 

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Wow, that's a cool-looking fish!

Thanks for all of the help, everyone.



#10 loopsnj64

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 02:27 PM

It may be an adaptation to heavily planted areas, or just freak melanism 


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