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#1 Betta132

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 11:35 AM

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Found this guy in a river that often has bluegill/longear hybrids, and a few redbreast sunnies. Is this a redbreast/bluegill? The stripes and color don't look quite right for it to be a pureblood redbreast. Or I might just have pulled up another oddly colored bluegill. 

For comparison, this is what redbreasts usually look like in this river, though this guy's a bit over average size: 

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#2 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 11:53 AM

I think it's probably just a bluegill.



#3 butch

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 12:37 PM

Its just a bluegill

#4 mattknepley

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 05:24 PM

Bluegill, like you said, but I can see where the breast color might throw you.
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#5 Betta132

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 06:36 PM

Is there any particular reason a bluegill would have the red/orange breast? Is that a display color?



#6 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 06:55 PM

It's just normal coloration for adult males.



#7 Michael Wolfe

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 07:00 PM

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#8 centrarchid

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 09:40 PM

My adult male bluegill have darker / smokier breast areas if of the nest building type. I would like to see the operculum area more closely.


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#9 Evan P

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Posted 21 June 2015 - 11:45 PM

That is very typical coloration for northern Bluegill.


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#10 Betta132

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 07:21 PM

Northern? I'm about as far South as you can go without being coastal. 



#11 centrarchid

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 08:00 AM

I live in the core of Northern Bluegill territory, work with it and a very good repressentation of the other Bluegills.  That fish looks odd.  Betta132, are you in extreme southern Texas?


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#12 Dustin

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 08:04 AM

Not to add less clarity to the situation, but this is also the way the non-breeding bluegills look in SC.  It looks like a very typical fish for this area.


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#13 Betta132

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 12:33 AM

I'm in Central Texas. This fish was pulled out of the San Gabriel river, if that helps. 

The photo doesn't show it, but this fish had a slight tint of purple between the stripes, like the purple on baby sunfish. Could it have somehow retained traces of the baby coloration? Or could it be 3/4 bluegill? I've found longear/bluegill hybrids in this river before, though they're usually very small. I don't think they get over longear size, and I've never seen a longear over 5" around here. 

 

These two are from about a mile down the river, in a spot where the fish can grow to adult size without being caught for bait. They're probably from the same genetic stock, if it's helpful. 

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#14 butch

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 11:13 AM

Dude, they're just bluegills.

#15 centrarchid

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 06:57 PM

See following thread.  I have beaten bushes looking at Bluegill from all over.  Some in Texas do look a bit different despite everyone and their brother stocking other Bluegills on top of them.

 

http://forum.nanfa.o...ill-subspecies/


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