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#1 taldridge0321

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 12:16 PM

I caught this, what I believe to be a Redhorse in Waxhaw, NC in a creek the other day. At first glance it had brown to bronze coloration on its back, red fins and a brassy side. It had a sucker type mouth which I took a picture of.

 

The most common Redhorse we have here is the Shorthead Redhorse but this doesnt look like one of those. There is a Carolina Redhorse and I am hoping that is what this is.
 

Thanks for any help with the id.

 

Tim

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#2 gerald

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:17 PM

It's anothre white sucker.  Look at the very small anterior scales vs larger posterior scales.  In redhorses the anterior ones nearly the same size or only slightly smaller than the posterior ones.


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#3 taldridge0321

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:21 PM

Appreciate it, so confirmed, White Sucker?



#4 taldridge0321

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:27 PM

What about this one?

 

This was caught near my house in Waxhaw, I was thinking a Shorthead Redhorse but I am wrong a lot hahaa.

 

It had a small red or orange line going down the center of its body from head to tail. It looked like its lateral line.

 

Thanks again for any info on species.

 

Tim Aldridge

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#5 gerald

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 01:51 PM

Shorthead may be right!  Lip shot is too blurry, unfortunately.  Other possibilities are notchlip (usually the commonest redhorse in NC Piedmont), Carolina, or V-lip.  ... or Brassy Jumprock ???


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"Taxonomy is the diaper used to organize the mess of evolution into discrete packages" - M.Sandel


#6 taldridge0321

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Posted 30 June 2016 - 02:10 PM

Shorthead may be right!  Lip shot is too blurry, unfortunately.  Other possibilities are notchlip (usually the commonest redhorse in NC Piedmont), Carolina, or V-lip.  ... or Brassy Jumprock ???

Thanks, my first thought was Shorthead Redhorse because the head was short compared to other Redhorses I have caught. Thanks for the help.





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