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Eastern Silvery Minnow finally? Near Pee Dee River, NC


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#1 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 04:55 PM

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#2 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 04:55 PM

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#3 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 04:56 PM

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#4 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 04:56 PM

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#5 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 04:56 PM

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#6 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 04:56 PM

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#7 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 04:57 PM

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#8 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 04:59 PM

Caught a few Tessie Darters as well, I also clearly saw a shiner about three inches long, with a solid red head and plain silver body. I looked it up and what it looked like in my book was a Pinewoods Shiner but I couldn't ever catch one. Pee+Dee++_4_+_Large_.JPG



#9 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 04:59 PM

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#10 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 05:00 PM

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#11 Matt DeLaVega

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 06:08 PM

Dustin please.


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#12 gerald

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 06:30 PM

Sorry Tim - #1 -6 looks like satinfin shiners, not silvery minnows.  #7 is too small for my ID skills.  The redhead minnow you saw was probably a rosefin shiner, introduced to the Cape Fear and PeeDee drainages from the Roanoke basin to the north.  Haw River and tribs around Greensboro and Burlington have a lot of rosefins now, and also red shiners from the Ohio/Mississippi basin.  Wine glass photo-tank is a nice touch!


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#13 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 07:02 PM

Sorry Tim - #1 -6 looks like satinfin shiners, not silvery minnows.  #7 is too small for my ID skills.  The redhead minnow you saw was probably a rosefin shiner, introduced to the Cape Fear and PeeDee drainages from the Roanoke basin to the north.  Haw River and tribs around Greensboro and Burlington have a lot of rosefins now, and also red shiners from the Ohio/Mississippi basin.  Wine glass photo-tank is a nice touch!

Haha darn! Maybe next time haha. Wine glass was my mother's touch since I caught the Darters in her backyard haha.



#14 mattknepley

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 04:49 AM

Eastern Silveries tend to drop scales very easily, too. It's often a good clue as to whether you do/don't have them in your bucket. They give me trouble too and I use scale dropping (or lack thereof) as one of my id cheats.
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#15 sbtgrfan

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 08:26 AM

I would have guessed fieryblack shiners on these...but I didn't have a chance to look up distribution/location yet.


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#16 gerald

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 08:55 AM

Now that Stephen mentions it I DO see faint orange in the tail on #2,3,4.  So yes, maybe they're fieryblacks just beginning to get red pigment.

The three Cyprinellas in the PeeDee basin are satinfin, whitefin, and fieryblack (excluding the "chub" Cyprinellas).


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