24 Foot Aquarium in Office
#1 Guest_Blake_*
Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:00 PM
Any suggestions?
I will post a couple pix soon.
Thanks, Blake.
#2 Guest_Zephead4747_*
Posted 12 June 2007 - 10:06 PM
2.darter/minnow
3.bass
go with choice 1. Only thing to worry about is the pickerel getting bullied.
#3 Guest_chad55_*
Posted 13 June 2007 - 12:39 AM
Chad
#4 Guest_Blake_*
Posted 13 June 2007 - 08:39 AM
The tank is 3 feet wide. It would be hard to maintain a lot of live plants.
Hey Zep, wouldn't the pickerel get large and eat everything in the tank? What type of pickerel were you thinking?
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#5 Guest_fishlvr_*
Posted 13 June 2007 - 08:48 AM
Zephead was probably thinking grass pickerel. They could probably live with some of the larger sunfish, like warmouth, bluegill, and redbreast sunfish. If you wanted to breed your fish, it would be a little difficult because the pickerel would probably eat the fry.
BTW that's a nice tank.
#6 Guest_Gambusia_*
Posted 13 June 2007 - 10:32 AM
#7 Guest_chad55_*
Posted 13 June 2007 - 11:47 AM
Chad
#8 Guest_Blake_*
Posted 13 June 2007 - 01:44 PM
I'm thinking sunfish, black and white crappie, rock bass or small mouth bass maybe a small gar.
A school of something big enough not to be eaten would be good too.
#9 Guest_Zephead4747_*
Posted 13 June 2007 - 07:20 PM
If there aren't too many fish in the tank and the are all more passive lepomis then I would think it would work. Otherwise an all sunfish tank would probably do the best. I wouldn't leave out greens or bluegill though. They are the most common sunfish in most of North America and are attractive in their own right.
I think a darter tank with some smaller sunfish species like bluespotted/ospots/ dollars would be cool. I wouldn't think the sunfish would eat the darters. I actually plan on trying this for a 2nd tank when I finish collecting for my first.
#10 Guest_edbihary_*
Posted 13 June 2007 - 08:14 PM
I'm not so sure about that. Based on the range map in Peterson's Field Guide, as well as NatureServe:I was thinking a grass pickerel. (can be bought from vendors, I know they aren't native to ontario)
http://www.natureser...dIndexes=101857
I would think that grass pickerel do exist in southern Ontario. If only you could figure out where to find one.
Alternately, if you could get one shipped up from the states. The problem is, most people here ship by Priority Mail. It is allowable to ship fish interstate by the USPS, but it is not allowable to ship them internationally. Are there other ways that fish can be shipped to Canada?
#11
Posted 13 June 2007 - 10:01 PM
This is the way that I have my 75 set up now (except that I dont really have room for all the environments to be very seperated)... nocomis, notropis, cyprinella, etheostoma, notorus... the variety makes for a very interesting tank, you never know who might show up or who is going to hide for a while.
1. sunfish/perch/pickerel/bullhead/rockbass/chub
2.darter/minnow
3.bass
go with choice 1. Only thing to worry about is the pickerel getting bullied.
#12 Guest_nativecajun_*
Posted 17 June 2007 - 08:33 AM
Again grass pickerel may get picked on but he will definatly not eat a sunfish over three and a half inches long. Maybe a little longer for a safety margin but that would be such a cool fish to keep with the sunnies. Of course you would be stuck feeding the thing. Live moving objects unless you can get the pickerel whisperer to train him to eat pellets or soft foods.
Pumpkinseed
Northern Long ears
Orange spotted
I have not kept yellow perch so I cannot advise on that one but I think they would look cool.
Some large shinners of a type you like
You have all that stuff up there I think.
In a tank that large I think you could get away with keeping fish together that would not normaly be kept together with the proper set up and lots of cover. They would establish teritories in a large tank like that. The problem is feeding. If another fish will fit into your larger fishes mouth consider him A feeder fish.
I have northern long ears in with blue spotted now but they are young long ears. I am waiting to see what developes. I also have orange spotted in there as well.
#13 Guest_Irate Mormon_*
Posted 17 June 2007 - 08:57 PM
#14 Guest_chad55_*
Posted 18 June 2007 - 12:21 AM
My not full grown grass pickerel at 8" ate a 6" irridecent shark....Good advice bad advice. Not to step on toes but a full grown grass pickerel if that is what you are talking about, and not a chain, cannot eat and will not eat a sunfish over three and a half inches long.
Chad
#15 Guest_chad55_*
Posted 18 June 2007 - 12:25 AM
Also you don't have to be a super genius to get pickerel to eat pellets...It just takes a damn long time. Took me like two months.Again grass pickerel may get picked on but he will definatly not eat a sunfish over three and a half inches long. Maybe a little longer for a safety margin but that would be such a cool fish to keep with the sunnies. Of course you would be stuck feeding the thing. Live moving objects unless you can get the pickerel whisperer to train him to eat pellets or soft foods.
Chad
#16 Guest_edbihary_*
Posted 18 June 2007 - 12:43 AM
Iridescent sharks are more minnow-shaped: long and slender. They are much more likely to be eaten by a predator fish than a sunfish-shaped fish. Still, you would be surprised what would fit in a pickerel's mouth.My not full grown grass pickerel at 8" ate a 6" irridecent shark....
#17 Guest_chad55_*
Posted 18 June 2007 - 12:24 PM
Chad
#18 Guest_nativecajun_*
Posted 18 June 2007 - 08:37 PM
This is true but this thing was thick and I am pretty sure it was thicker than your average 3" sunfish...
Chad
Thick has nothing to do with it. It is the shape. Sunfish are disk shaped. Your catfish "shark" is long and more slender. I do not believe a grass pickerel could eat a sunny over three and a half inches. No problem here though I do not have the mortgage bet on it. I just do not see it happening. I will have to do a study I guess. Is a sunfish as wide from top to bottom as it is from front to back. The pickerels mouth would have to be at least three inches wide. I don't think so.
Daniel
#19 Guest_teleost_*
Posted 18 June 2007 - 08:53 PM
Thick has nothing to do with it. It is the shape. Sunfish are disk shaped. Your catfish "shark" is long and more slender. I do not believe a grass pickerel could eat a sunny over three and a half inches. No problem here though I do not have the mortgage bet on it. I just do not see it happening. I will have to do a study I guess. Is a sunfish as wide from top to bottom as it is from front to back. The pickerels mouth would have to be at least three inches wide. I don't think so.
Daniel
I caught two 12" pickerel on Saturday that would eat a 3.5 inch sunfish. I'm not saying you can't keep docile sunfish and pickerel together but a well fed pickerel will keep the number of fish in your tank higher.
#20 Guest_Zephead4747_*
Posted 19 June 2007 - 05:38 PM
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