The "h" Word
#1 Guest_iturnrocks_*
Posted 26 July 2007 - 12:47 PM
#2 Guest_Zephead4747_*
Posted 12 August 2007 - 04:17 PM
#3 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 12 August 2007 - 04:53 PM
#4 Guest_fishlvr_*
Posted 12 August 2007 - 04:53 PM
#5 Guest_fishlvr_*
Posted 12 August 2007 - 04:55 PM
Here we go again... I would say the fish is a bluegill, with the dorsal spot and vertical banding on the body. The mouth doesn't look quite big enough to be a green or green-influenced. Other threads recently have pointed the huge variation in bluegills even in nearby lakes. So even if it looks different from many other bluegills 'twould appear to be a bluegill.
Maybe, but bluegill don't have the blue lines under their eyes do they? I've never seen any like that. Blugilll also have smaller mouths.
#6 Guest_sandtiger_*
Posted 12 August 2007 - 10:36 PM
#7 Guest_bullhead_*
Posted 12 August 2007 - 11:40 PM
#8 Guest_iturnrocks_*
Posted 13 August 2007 - 09:35 AM
Are all the pictures of the same fish?
They are all pics of the same fish but theres about 6 months time between them. The top photo is the most recent.
The 2nd picture down was taken within a few days of capture.
#9 Guest_dsmith73_*
Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:47 AM
#10 Guest_drewish_*
Posted 13 August 2007 - 11:38 AM
#11 Guest_iturnrocks_*
Posted 13 August 2007 - 12:22 PM
#12 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 13 August 2007 - 01:19 PM
#13 Guest_edbihary_*
Posted 13 August 2007 - 04:16 PM
The color reminds me of pumpkinseed, although we've seen green sunfish like that before. The red tip on the ear flap is also reminiscent of pumpkinseed, but we've occasionally seen that on green sunfish before, also. The mouth seems a little too small for a green sunfish. If I were to accuse this fish of being a hybrid, I would guess green x pumpkinseed. Has anybody ever seen one of those? But I lean toward just an unusual green sunfish.
#14 Guest_smbass_*
Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:40 PM
#15 Guest_JDS_*
Posted 23 August 2007 - 08:26 PM
Black blotches on both dorsal and anal fins. White fringes on the fins (more evident on the first photo, when the fish was older). Black, pepper-like spots on the body, especially near and above the lateral line. Green sunfish.
The color reminds me of pumpkinseed, although we've seen green sunfish like that before. The red tip on the ear flap is also reminiscent of pumpkinseed, but we've occasionally seen that on green sunfish before, also. The mouth seems a little too small for a green sunfish. If I were to accuse this fish of being a hybrid, I would guess green x pumpkinseed. Has anybody ever seen one of those? But I lean toward just an unusual green sunfish.
Shot at 2007-07-11
#16 Guest_smbass_*
Posted 24 August 2007 - 10:43 AM
Shot at 2007-07-11
This definitely looks like a green x pumpkinseed and a nicely colored one at that.
#17 Guest_Zephead4747_*
Posted 25 August 2007 - 09:26 PM
As stated before if bluegills can have variance why not greens? I've seen dark bars on ym greens and blue speckled pattern on them I can attest to them being 100% green. It's a lot of their mood and the lighting that affect the pattern.
I've kept these fish for months now and I will say that they are 100% green without a doubt. There shouldn't be any doubt here, I've seen more suspicious looking fish taken as pures.
#18 Guest_Skipjack_*
Posted 25 August 2007 - 09:43 PM
#19 Guest_Irate Mormon_*
Posted 25 August 2007 - 09:55 PM
Zephead, you are messing with SMBASS. His specialty is Lepomis. Get over it.
Well, SMB did mention the "h" word. That's suspect in and of itself! Looks like a variable green, FWIW.
#20 Guest_fundulus_*
Posted 25 August 2007 - 10:23 PM
You're on to a key idea of biology, that within species there can be a fair amount of variation. I'd also say the fish is a green, but from that one photo, that's maybe an informed opinion. I still think the most parsimonious ID is that of a species.I'm positive it's a pure green or at least 75% green.
As stated before if bluegills can have variance why not greens? I've seen dark bars on ym greens and blue speckled pattern on them I can attest to them being 100% green. It's a lot of their mood and the lighting that affect the pattern.
I've kept these fish for months now and I will say that they are 100% green without a doubt. There shouldn't be any doubt here, I've seen more suspicious looking fish taken as pures.
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