Saline River, Arkansas
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, Aug 13 2007 05:15 PM
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 06:04 PM
Cool Jeff..we'll get on to getting ID's for you on those..I already pretty much know but I'm quick on time to recheck the ID to a reference. Something I like to do these days..
BTW..great to have you on the forum also
BTW..great to have you on the forum also
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 07:57 PM
Hey Jeff!
I suspect the blue and yellow cyprinella is Blacktail shiner (C. venusta) and I also feel the the plain shiner with the huge eye is a Bigeye shiner (Notropis boops)
Hard to be sure so take my ID's with a bit of skepticism.
I don't feel comfortable with ID's on Arkansas darters yet but don't quite get the rainbow darter vibe.
I can now see Dustin's ID's and must admit that I do like the Mud darter angle. I've only seen what I believe are Mud darters on two occasions and seems about right.
I do see a spot on the Cyprinella peduncle Dustin. Should that rule out Whipplei? I'm not sure to be honest.
The eye on that Notropis is too large for atherinoides and the dorsal scale pigment suggests other than atherinoides.
I suspect the blue and yellow cyprinella is Blacktail shiner (C. venusta) and I also feel the the plain shiner with the huge eye is a Bigeye shiner (Notropis boops)
Hard to be sure so take my ID's with a bit of skepticism.
I don't feel comfortable with ID's on Arkansas darters yet but don't quite get the rainbow darter vibe.
I can now see Dustin's ID's and must admit that I do like the Mud darter angle. I've only seen what I believe are Mud darters on two occasions and seems about right.
I do see a spot on the Cyprinella peduncle Dustin. Should that rule out Whipplei? I'm not sure to be honest.
The eye on that Notropis is too large for atherinoides and the dorsal scale pigment suggests other than atherinoides.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 09:08 PM
Hey Jeff!
I suspect the blue and yellow cyprinella is Blacktail shiner (C. venusta) and I also feel the the plain shiner with the huge eye is a Bigeye shiner (Notropis boops)
Hard to be sure so take my ID's with a bit of skepticism.
I don't feel comfortable with ID's on Arkansas darters yet but don't quite get the rainbow darter vibe.
I can now see Dustin's ID's and must admit that I do like the Mud darter angle. I've only seen what I believe are Mud darters on two occasions and seems about right.
I do see a spot on the Cyprinella peduncle Dustin. Should that rule out Whipplei? I'm not sure to be honest.
The eye on that Notropis is too large for atherinoides and the dorsal scale pigment suggests other than atherinoides.
Wow, that was fast. You could have given me a few moments of glory....
I am fairly certain on the asprigne. It is either that or collettei based on it's collection locale and the asprigne has that orange patch on the belly.
The whipplei, was in retrospect, a bad choice. The color in the fins made me think it wasn't venusta, and the only other choice was whipplei, but I suppose they can color up that much on occassion.
I originally thought boops on the Notropis as well, but wasn't certain. I agree that this is what it is. THe eye is certainly very large. I just thought that it looked a little slender for boops, but I concede. Very nice job guys.
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 10:27 PM
The picture of this Notropis has a huge glare spot on it, but one possible ID would be telescope shiner which also has a large eye. There is a disjunct Ozarks population of telescopes, although I don't know where precisely this fish was collected.I originally thought boops on the Notropis as well, but wasn't certain. I agree that this is what it is. THe eye is certainly very large. I just thought that it looked a little slender for boops, but I concede. Very nice job guys.
We had a record temperature for the day in Huntsville of 104 deg. F, so it was certainly a choking hot day here too.
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 11:05 AM
Ok, we IDed out these fish earlier today.
#1&2 are mud darters (Etheostoma asprigine)
#3&5 are bigeye shiners (Notropis boops)
#4&6 are blacktail shiners (Cyprinella venusta)
We also caught some other notable specimens not pictured: saddleback darters (Percina ouachitae), striped shiner (Luxilus chrysocephalus), taillight shiners (Notropis maculatus), centrachids (longear, bass, etc), redfin pickeral (Esox americanus), and a few others.
It was pretty productive, I just wish it would have been 20 degrees cooler.
#1&2 are mud darters (Etheostoma asprigine)
#3&5 are bigeye shiners (Notropis boops)
#4&6 are blacktail shiners (Cyprinella venusta)
We also caught some other notable specimens not pictured: saddleback darters (Percina ouachitae), striped shiner (Luxilus chrysocephalus), taillight shiners (Notropis maculatus), centrachids (longear, bass, etc), redfin pickeral (Esox americanus), and a few others.
It was pretty productive, I just wish it would have been 20 degrees cooler.
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