I noticed 2 egg clusters on some of my plants in the 125 gal set up, they are clear globs with probably 25-50 clear eggs. I have seen some snails other the the nerites that hitched in on some of the plants, but i thought snail eggs were usually not clear. I will try to get a pict in the morning.


several of the sail fin shiners seem kinda "full" which i think may be eggs?

do sailfin shiners lay eggs like this, or are these snail eggs?

Sounds like snail eggs to me. I've got a bunch in my garden popnds and they're all like a gelatinous mass.

-Chip in SC

ok thanks

Yeah, hate to disappoint you, but snail eggs fit that description perfectly, and Sailfins are typical cyprinid egg-scatterers.
On the plus side, sailfins are some of the easier shiners to spawn, so you should get some results soon if you're doing things even halfway right, and since I already saw the picture of your tank, I'd guess that you are, and even better, that's just the right size of gravel for the eggs to fall through to avoid being eaten.

I am keeping the water temp between 70 - 72 f is this 2 cold?

(i have some Orange Spot sunnies, trying to keep them from pairing off, and getting vicious)

something found the snail eggs and ate them

72 is just at the very bottom of their spawning range. 73-74 is where I've found they really start to get busy, but that's after they've been overwintered down in the mid-60's for a month. Sailfins from further south in the peninsula are easier to spawn on account of having less need for winter conditioning, but ours up here, in my experience, tend to be pretty finicky. Some guys have spawned them with no effort whatsoever, but my own attempts to breed them like tropicals, that is, without much conditioning, haven't been very successful.
Just leave the AC on for about six weeks and feed them well, and then start to warm them up about one degree every two days until they reach 74, and they should start spawning like crazy. A water change makes a good spawning trigger at that time as well, and after they stop spawning, another water change will get them to start again for a few more days. I would also recommend photoperiod manipulation from winter to spring conditionsd, but not with all those plants in the tank.