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I want to make a drift net, anyone have any ideas.

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#1 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 09:30 AM

I am interested in trying to make my own drift net

What would you suggest for the round opening?
This is the part that is not easy for me to find or fabricate, I have the netting material I want to use.

Also I have seen this called a drift net as well:
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I think this would be ideal for madtoms and darters, and ideas on what to frame this with?

Thanks for your help

Tom.

#2 Guest_viridari_*

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 10:04 AM

There isn't much that you can't do with PVC pipe. And it's so darned easy to work with! I think that would be ideal for rectangular nets.

For a round net, you could always try a hula hoop. I'm not terribly confident about how rigid it will hold up with a net behind it being pulled by the current. Obviously too big for smaller streams. For smaller sizes, maybe cut up a bucket lid, retaining just the lip.

#3 Guest_daveneely_*

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 10:15 AM

...becaude you're interested in sampling larval fishes in rivers? That's the primary function of drift nets.

#4 Guest_dsmith73_*

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 10:17 AM

I am sure you are aware, but BG Granier sells both of these style nets for a reasonable price at www.shinerscoop.net .

#5 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 10:20 AM

...becaude you're interested in sampling larval fishes in rivers? That's the primary function of drift nets.

No, because i want to make one and see how well it work in different areas here in NE Ohio.

#6 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 10:21 AM

I am sure you are aware, but BG Granier sells both of these style nets for a reasonable price at www.shinerscoop.net .

Yes, I kinda want to make my own. I saw his nets a while ago and forgot until you reminded me.

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 11:40 AM

The only thing the lower picture drift net could do that a dipnet couldn't do is allow you to have both hands free to flip rocks when you are going solo. Otherwise a dipnet or meter wide seine does the same thing without the bulk. Do drift nets fall under a fishing license? Ohio covers trapping, gigging, bow, seines, dipnets, etc. quite extensively but it's not a cast net and it's not really a dipnet so I would venture to say it doesn't fall under a license. A dipnet rigged with a rigid frame around the netting, or an A frame to prop it up ,with some sort of weighted bottom or stakes would essentially function in the same manner and you'd still have a "dipnet".

#8 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 11:48 AM

The only thing the lower picture drift net could do that a dipnet couldn't do is allow you to have both hands free to flip rocks when you are going solo. Otherwise a dipnet or meter wide seine does the same thing without the bulk. Do drift nets fall under a fishing license? Ohio covers trapping, gigging, bow, seines, dipnets, etc. quite extensively but it's not a cast net and it's not really a dipnet so I would venture to say it doesn't fall under a license. A dipnet rigged with a rigid frame around the netting, or an A frame to prop it up ,with some sort of weighted bottom or stakes would essentially function in the same manner and you'd still have a "dipnet".

I am not sure about legality, I will find out before I use one, I just want to make one first. The second picture was an after thought. I'd rather have the first one, except I wouldn't hang it I'd pull it

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 12:11 PM

PVC is great. I would try and bend a ring out of PVC pipe. The spring tension would add to the stiffness. You can try - Pipe steam through the PVC pipe to make bending easier.

In Michigan DNR language, a 'dip net' is what I call an umbrella net,
and a 'dip net' is a landing net
therefore
a Perfect Dipnet is not legal in Michigan to catch bait because it has sides.

#10 Guest_Irate Mormon_*

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Posted 11 December 2007 - 12:59 PM

BG's prototype was (is) made out of two or three loops of electrical wire. Get yourself 25' of 14-2 and you should be good to go. It's not terribly rigid, but a 4-point harness does the trick.

#11 Guest_Seedy_*

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 03:56 PM

...becaude you're interested in sampling larval fishes in rivers? That's the primary function of drift nets.

I have to agree with Dave here. It would be great for sampling small inverts and things of that nature, but that's not really designed to catch fish...Most fish I know of can swim upstream against the flow of the river/stream they live in and would get out of that net.

I think it would be fun to go kick a bunch of rocks and debris just upstream of the net and then see what you get...I bet you could find all kinds of cool insect larvae and other critters...

#12 Guest_mikez_*

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 04:52 PM

I think it would be fun to go kick a bunch of rocks and debris just upstream of the net and then see what you get...I bet you could find all kinds of cool insect larvae and other critters...

Oh man! You could collect so much live food for your fish!
Imagine setting that thing up during a mayfly hatch? You'd have to empty the bag frequently or it'd bust wide open!
On a decent stream in late spring you'd probably get a dozen species covering every life stage from egg to egg layer in one evening. That'd be alot of food and great variety.

#13 Guest_tglassburner_*

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 06:21 PM

Oh man! You could collect so much live food for your fish!
Imagine setting that thing up during a mayfly hatch? You'd have to empty the bag frequently or it'd bust wide open!
On a decent stream in late spring you'd probably get a dozen species covering every life stage from egg to egg layer in one evening. That'd be alot of food and great variety.

Oh yeah!

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 08:41 PM

FWIW, the "shiner scoop", or drift net as youse guys call it, is pretty damn effective at catching fish if you know how to use it. Down south we call it a "welaka getter" but it also gets hubbsi, signipinnis, and lots more, especially minnows that use sunfish nests. You can also "chum" for minnows using bread or crackers and nab 'em with the net from bridges.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 02:44 AM

FWIW, the "shiner scoop", or drift net as youse guys call it, is pretty damn effective at catching fish if you know how to use it. Down south we call it a "welaka getter" but it also gets hubbsi, signipinnis, and lots more, especially minnows that use sunfish nests. You can also "chum" for minnows using bread or crackers and nab 'em with the net from bridges.

How would you use it? Rivers and streams are pretty different in Texas than up north. Looking at that "drift net," if I were to use it I think I would drop it over the edge of the boat, wait a few minutes, and then rapidly pull it back up.

#16 Guest_Irate Mormon_*

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 11:34 PM

How would you use it? Rivers and streams are pretty different in Texas than up north. Looking at that "drift net," if I were to use it I think I would drop it over the edge of the boat, wait a few minutes, and then rapidly pull it back up.

Well, you have to be able to see the fish in order to use it. You throw it into the water, wait until the fish hover over it (a white net is best for this), and jerk it back in. This is for fishing from land/bridge. For boat use, you tow it through a school of fish. Shad will often churn the surface of the water, so you can target them. Blindly trolling with the net would not be productive, I would think.

I dunno about Texas fishes - a whole different set of rules may apply.

#17 Guest_Doug_Dame_*

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:02 AM

How would you use it? Rivers and streams are pretty different in Texas than up north. Looking at that "drift net," if I were to use it I think I would drop it over the edge of the boat, wait a few minutes, and then rapidly pull it back up.

I've used a BG scoop on stream schooling minnows that were out of reach with my dipnet , esp. Pt. hypselopterus and friends .... (or one last twilight stop after I'd gotten into dry clothes) ... frisbee it past them, haul it back, el viola.

Hadn't thought to try it off a bridge .... DUH !

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 09:42 AM

During my stream ecology class in school we did a 24 hour sample of the St. Regis River, just downstream of Lower Saint Regis Lake. We used a couple of the box nets (second picture at top) left in-place and sampled them every hour. At the night samples, the predominate catch was THOUSANDS of midge larvae that got washed out of the lake.

#19 Guest_Irate Mormon_*

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 11:26 PM

Hadn't thought to try it off a bridge .... DUH !

It helps if you chum the fish up with some bread or something.

#20 Guest_netmaker_*

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Posted 05 July 2008 - 07:20 AM

Hey,

Just curious..........what size mesh and what type mesh are all of you using in these drift nets.

Ace, delta, anchovy raschel, Peecap, Nitex, etc.

1/16", 1/8", microns ??, etc.

sa va,
netmaker