Sheltowee
#1 Guest_jblaylock_*
Posted 15 November 2008 - 09:17 PM
#2 Guest_jimv8673_*
Posted 15 November 2008 - 09:52 PM
I was just reading over the species list for Rockcastle County KY and I noticed the listing of the Sheltowee Darter (Etheostoma Sp. 9). I can't find any photos of this fish or any other info. Does anyone have any pics or any information on this fish?
Found this it might take you somewhere www.kdfwr.state.ky.us/kfwis/speciesInfo/speciesListCounty.asp?strScientificName=Etheostoma
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Summary from NatureServe (2008) species account - Accessed via Natureserve.org on 11/16/2008.
Etheostoma sp. 9
Sheltowee Darter
Informal Taxonomy: Animals, Vertebrates - Fishes - Bony Fishes - Perches and Darters
Kingdom Phylum Class Order Family Genus
Animalia Craniata Actinopterygii Perciformes Percidae Etheostoma
Ceas, P. A. 1997. Systematic studies of the orangethroat darter, Etheostoma spectabile complex (Percidae; subgenus Oligocephalus). Ph.D. thesis, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. viii + 157 pp.
Name Used in Concept Reference: Etheostoma sp. 9
Taxonomic Comments: Formerly included in E. SPECTABILE; recognized as an undescribed species by Ceas (1997). Conservation Status NatureServe Status
Global Status: G4G5Q
Abundant in small range in Kentucky; not significantly threatened.
Range Comments: Dix River system (Kentucky River system) in Kentucky (Ceas 1997).
References •Ceas, P. A. 1997. Systematic studies of the orangethroat darter, Etheostoma spectabile complex (Percidae; subgenus Oligocephalus). Ph.D. thesis, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. viii + 157 pp.
#3 Guest_ashtonmj_*
Posted 15 November 2008 - 10:06 PM
#4 Guest_jimv8673_*
Posted 16 November 2008 - 05:45 AM
Please feel free to do whatever you want, figured it was too much, and id get called on it but i wanted to give him all the info i could , Thanks for the help JimVI'll summarize very quickly. It was formerly considered an orangethroat darter and was recognized as an undescribed species by Ceas (1997). In the Tennessee and Kentucky area there are several "new" species of orangethroat darters. The only true orangethroats (E. spectable) in Tennessee are ones that can be found in drainages that are direct tributaries to the Mississippi River. I believe the only orangethroats in Kentucky are direct Mississippi and Ohio River tributaries, but not the Red, Cumberland, and Kentucky River. So this specimen from the Kentucky River drainage, the Caney Fork, Cumberland, Tennessee River, etc. are now considered seperate species.
#5 Guest_jblaylock_*
Posted 09 January 2009 - 06:31 PM
One thing I noticed after looking at the pics, other than the white stripe, is the touch of blue on the top and bottom of the tail fin where the fin meets the body. Maybe this is the Sheltowee, or maybe another variant of the Orangethroat.
#6 Guest_ashtonmj_*
Posted 09 January 2009 - 06:45 PM
What's the anal fin coloration? It does look like one. Sheltowee is an orangethroat variant and they do not overlap so if you were in the proper drainage...fish don't exactly recognize imaginary lines I mean county borders...
#7 Guest_jblaylock_*
Posted 09 January 2009 - 07:38 PM
I was in the proper drainage for the Sheltowee, but natureserve doesn't show it in that specific "quad". However, with all the recent rain, I would expect to see some more fish 'down stream' from headwater creeks.
#8 Guest_ashtonmj_*
Posted 09 January 2009 - 08:36 PM
#9 Guest_jblaylock_*
Posted 10 January 2009 - 04:27 PM
#10 Guest_jblaylock_*
Posted 10 January 2009 - 04:37 PM
Josh,
What's the anal fin coloration? It does look like one. Sheltowee is an orangethroat variant and they do not overlap so if you were in the proper drainage...fish don't exactly recognize imaginary lines I mean county borders...
As far as I can tell, it's looks solid blue.
#11 Guest_bpkeck_*
Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:14 PM
As far as I can tell, it's looks solid blue.
It looks pretty blue to me, and the vertical blotches on the sides are more 'vertical' than diagonal (like they are in Rainbows, E. caeruleum). It looks pretty similar to the ones I've seen, so I'd say it's a Sheltowee.
#12 Guest_jblaylock_*
Posted 12 January 2009 - 07:58 PM
It looks pretty blue to me, and the vertical blotches on the sides are more 'vertical' than diagonal (like they are in Rainbows, E. caeruleum). It looks pretty similar to the ones I've seen, so I'd say it's a Sheltowee.
After further review of the fish now, the anal fin is solid blue. It has that white stripe on the dorsal. The body looks like a rainbow's, but it has those exceptions. I'm thinking Sheltowee also. Stilling hoping that Matt Thomas @ KY Fish will email me back.
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