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Posted 08 February 2009 - 06:55 PM

I don't think there is any forums for this. So can this be a makeshift forum? I wanted to know about some pipefish, I can't find much info on them. I found some photos of a green north american pipefish but I couldn't find the name. Also I can't really find much info on brackish fish or inverts at all. DO you fine folks have an archive you can point me to?

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:17 PM

Alot of us do not keep brackish fish. If the fish (like hogchoker) are native to the continent than this group is certainly appropriate to talk about them. There has been some talk about brackish NE US fish in the past, perhaps try a search.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 09:31 PM

Alot of us do not keep brackish fish. If the fish (like hogchoker) are native to the continent than this group is certainly appropriate to talk about them. There has been some talk about brackish NE US fish in the past, perhaps try a search.


I tired and didn't come up with anything except landlocked saltwater fish

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 09:34 PM

I tired and didn't come up with anything except landlocked saltwater fish



http://gallery.nanfa...bers/tomwatson/

that is the gallery I was referring too. The other fish sort of resemble red snapper but I'm not totally sure if they are saltwater fish in the pics or not.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:09 PM

I keep rainwater killies, mummichugs, sticklebacks and sailfin mollies - all brackish water fish.
I have dip netted pipefish on several occasions but always release them as they are reputed to be picky eaters requiring small live food. Also they are slow and can not compete with the faster, more aggressive species mentioned above.
I'm holding out for a seahorse. If and when I dipnet a seahorse, I'd consider setting up a species tank in which pipefish might be suitable.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:29 PM

I keep rainwater killies, mummichugs, sticklebacks and sailfin mollies - all brackish water fish.
I have dip netted pipefish on several occasions but always release them as they are reputed to be picky eaters requiring small live food. Also they are slow and can not compete with the faster, more aggressive species mentioned above.
I'm holding out for a seahorse. If and when I dipnet a seahorse, I'd consider setting up a species tank in which pipefish might be suitable.


Yes I did some research on the pipe fish that I could find. They all seem to be similar fragile and very specialized hunters. I looked at a lot of the other freshwater fish but besides the shiners, dace and sun fish, most were either very drab or very close to a saltwater blenny in appearance. I have an extra 30 gallon long I wanted to set up for something out of the ordinary, just haven't figured out what yet.

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 11:45 PM

I'm holding out for a seahorse. If and when I dipnet a seahorse, I'd consider setting up a species tank in which pipefish might be suitable.


This summer if I make it to the coast I'll keep an eye out for some for you. A few years ago I was in a marine science class that chartered a boat and ran a trawl off the beach and in some inlets in Virginia Beach. I remember that while not hugely abundant, we found a number of Hippocampus erectus in the inlets whenever we brought up any submerged vegetation. They're probably more abundant down here and you may not see them swept up with big storms since they stay in shallower inshore water, but they're definately around and probably not as rare as you think.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 10:27 AM

This summer if I make it to the coast I'll keep an eye out for some for you. A few years ago I was in a marine science class that chartered a boat and ran a trawl off the beach and in some inlets in Virginia Beach. I remember that while not hugely abundant, we found a number of Hippocampus erectus in the inlets whenever we brought up any submerged vegetation. They're probably more abundant down here and you may not see them swept up with big storms since they stay in shallower inshore water, but they're definately around and probably not as rare as you think.


Seahorses occasionally show up as late summer strays in southern New England. The only reason I haven't found one yet is that I don't do much hunting in the eelgrass beds in sheltered waters. I mostly focus on rocky reefs in strong current where I find butterflies and damsals.
One of these days I'll do some snorkling in the eelgrass. Besided the seahorses, puffers and cowfish are often found there as well.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 10:28 AM

Yes I did some research on the pipe fish that I could find. They all seem to be similar fragile and very specialized hunters. I looked at a lot of the other freshwater fish but besides the shiners, dace and sun fish, most were either very drab or very close to a saltwater blenny in appearance. I have an extra 30 gallon long I wanted to set up for something out of the ordinary, just haven't figured out what yet.


Where are you located?

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 06:28 PM

Where are you located?


I am located in Wisconsin, a suburb near Milwaukee.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 06:29 PM

This summer if I make it to the coast I'll keep an eye out for some for you. A few years ago I was in a marine science class that chartered a boat and ran a trawl off the beach and in some inlets in Virginia Beach. I remember that while not hugely abundant, we found a number of Hippocampus erectus in the inlets whenever we brought up any submerged vegetation. They're probably more abundant down here and you may not see them swept up with big storms since they stay in shallower inshore water, but they're definately around and probably not as rare as you think.


Thanks! What size tank should I be looking to setup longer? higher?

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 12:18 PM

Pipe fish are very hard to keep alive in captivity. They, like their erect cousins, the seahorse, will only eat small live foods. If you are interested in keeping them, I would be happy to collect you some, as I run across them all the time in the warmer months. I live on the eastern shore of virginia, I can get pipefish almost anytime I want during the summer. You will need to start cultivating some live foods. Small grass shrimp, brine shrimp, mysis shrimp, stuff like that. You will never get them to eat anything dead. Ever. Never ever. Frozen foods just don't cut it. I did keep some during the summer back in college, they were pretty boring. Alot of hard work. If your looking for something saltwater, why not try a oystercracker, searobin, inshore lizardfish or a stargazer? Much easier to keep, and just as bizzare. The 30 gallon will contain those fish very easily, but they all will eat smaller tankmates.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 12:58 PM

I think I read somewhere that captive bred seahorses are easier to feed. Not sure, but I think I ready they even take frozen food sometimes. Not sure if the same goes for pipefish.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 10:29 AM

Yes, there is a company that managed to train their captives to eat frozen mysis and the like, but that is the only example I've ever heard of that will accept anything else than live. Also, the eyes have to be intact, for some reason they won't eat them if they don't have their eyes.




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