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Variegate vs. Rainbow Darters ID photos
#1
Guest_Clayton_*
Posted 15 March 2009 - 07:51 PM
#2
Guest_jblaylock_*
Posted 15 March 2009 - 08:22 PM
#3
Guest_bflowers_*
Posted 16 March 2009 - 12:36 AM
I'm getting ready to head out and try out the new dipnet, so I'm trying to brush up on my IDs and what I need to make sure not to take. I'm looking at pics of variegates online and some look an awful lot like Rainbows while others look completely different. Is there some surefire way to tell the two apart?
The other one you will run into, at least in Indiana, more that the Variegate is the Orangethroat. I had thought I had some Variegate a couple of years ago, but after sending some pictures to DNR they came back as just Orangethroats.
Bill F.
#4
Guest_CATfishTONY_*
Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:59 AM
do a search in our member pics farmertodd has A few he has been none to take a pic or two sometimes.LOLI'm getting ready to head out and try out the new dipnet, so I'm trying to brush up on my IDs and what I need to make sure not to take. I'm looking at pics of variegates online and some look an awful lot like Rainbows while others look completely different. Is there some surefire way to tell the two apart?
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Guest_Clayton_*
Posted 16 March 2009 - 07:47 AM
do a search in our member pics farmertodd has A few he has been none to take a pic or two sometimes.LOL
Tried that already. Lots of mention of variegates and some whole tank shots that likely include them, but I don't see a single good close up of a variegate darter from the search function.
#6
Guest_Uland_*
Posted 16 March 2009 - 08:43 AM
Etheostoma variatum Variegate Darter
![Posted Image](http://gallery.nanfa.org/d/13070-3/Etheostoma%20variatum%20Variegate%20Darter%20864.jpg)
The below Rainbow darter photo belongs to Lance Merry
![Posted Image](http://gallery.nanfa.org/d/13864-4/Picture%201295.jpg)
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Guest_farmertodd_*
Posted 16 March 2009 - 10:15 AM
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The variegates will have 3 or 4 very distinct black saddles on their back (there's 4, but sometimes one won't be so obvious on a young specimen). Their heads are also much more roubustly shaped and truncated, compared to the rainbow, which is more angular and terminal. The eye of the variegate in proportion to the head is much larger in the variegate, as you can probably see in Ulands fantastic photos
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Here's some more pictures with things pointed out:
Variegate darter with saddles pointed out:
![Attached File](http://forum.nanfa.org/public/style_extra/mime_types/gif.gif)
Or this female that I'm adding (3rd edit is a charm!
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Rainbow darter with anal fin pointed out:
![Attached File](http://forum.nanfa.org/public/style_extra/mime_types/gif.gif)
Orangethroat darter with anal fin pointed out:
![Attached File](http://forum.nanfa.org/public/style_extra/mime_types/gif.gif)
Todd
Edited by farmertodd, 16 March 2009 - 10:32 AM.
#8
Guest_Clayton_*
Posted 16 March 2009 - 12:03 PM
That is what I wanted to know. It seems fairly obvious now that it's been pointed out, but I was looking at a bunch of google images many of which were likely labeled wrong and I was getting more and more confused.
I'm pretty certain you're right on me not seeing the variegates. Though I do think that most of what I've run across and considered rainbows were actually orangethroats. They seem to be rather thin fish when compared to that rainbow.
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Guest_CATfishTONY_*
Posted 16 March 2009 - 12:47 PM
Very nice shots of fishes plus the airbrush touch was a helpful addition.
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Guest_Fish4Fun_*
Posted 16 March 2009 - 05:41 PM
Very nice shots of fishes plus the airbrush touch was a helpful addition.[/quote]
He edits in those nice colors also
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#11
Guest_JohnO_*
Posted 16 March 2009 - 09:18 PM
Typically when I find variegates, they have an olive color to the body. Despite their somewhat sculpin like head shape, they're very well behaved.
Also, I've found the best variegates in the riffles, while rainbows and orangethroats seem to exist just about everwhere.
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