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Spawning Ribbon shiners (Lythrurus fumeus)


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Posted 10 July 2009 - 04:59 PM

Has any one ever attempted to spawn or had success spawning ribbon shiners indoors? If so please describe your experience...

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 06:39 PM

Sorry to hijack the thread Luke, but I'm going to need photos of L. fumeus and if by any chance you have a location you wish to share via PM, I'd be indebted to you. As always, I catch photo and release the fish immediately so no harm should come from my activities.

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 06:45 PM

I have around 15 I captured from the Jacks fork river, Shannon Co Missouri in a large backwater lagoon they were hanging around Longear nests. I can give you the exact location if you want, let me check my map when I get to work tommorow..

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 10:09 PM

They appear to be some sort of gracile Lythurus sp. but are neither rosefin or redfin. Hopefully Luke can provide a good image tommorow. The collection locality was in a drainage L. fumeus is known to occur in but a bit upstream of dots in Pfleiger's Fishes of Missouri. What minnow might be similar and likely confused with ribbon shiner?

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 08:54 AM

They appear to be some sort of gracile Lythurus sp. but are neither rosefin or redfin. Hopefully Luke can provide a good image tommorow. The collection locality was in a drainage L. fumeus is known to occur in but a bit upstream of dots in Pfleiger's Fishes of Missouri. What minnow might be similar and likely confused with ribbon shiner?


I must correct myself on the exclusion of redfin. I think they are eastern redfins Lythurus umbratilis cyanocephalus which are ligher in color than western redfin L. umbratilis umbratilis occuring in the Missouri River drainage that see more frequently in central Missouri.

This is my first time to see these fish in good light. In a top lit tank (flourescent) many, probaby females, appear irredescent yellow. They look more like the redfin shiners of Indiana and Illinois than the redfins of central Missouri.

Male (top), female (bottom)

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Notice relatively larger eye diameter of female. Maybe she repressents 2+ age class and male repressents 1+ or we have more than one species or very interesting sexual dimorphism. Regardless we are learning something new for ourselves.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 10:53 AM

In my experience Lythrurus species are all about pronounced sexual dimorphism. Maybe eye size is a feature in umbratilis.



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