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Started by Guest_drewish_* , Dec 24 2006 05:38 PM

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#1 Guest_drewish_*

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 05:38 PM

Just figured I'd post these various pics I have

Enneacanthus ???

banded.jpg 71.47KB 10 downloads

Rosyside Dace

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Gilt Darter

gilt.jpg 53.5KB 5 downloads

Redline Darter

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redline2.jpg 71.33KB 9 downloads

Northern Hogsucker

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My group of MRBD

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#2 Guest_dredcon_*

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 06:34 PM

Nice fish. Are you keeping the hogsucker? The first fish may be E. obesus. Did you collect it yourself?

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#3 Guest_dsmith73_*

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 06:39 PM

First fish looks like a definite gloriosus to me. The "gilt" doesn't look like a gilt to me? Is there something else it could be?

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#4 Guest_dredcon_*

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 06:45 PM

I'm gonna have to make a trip to the east caost one to so I can learn my Enneacanthids in a hands on sorta way.

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#5 Guest_drewish_*

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 07:04 PM

Nice fish. Are you keeping the hogsucker? The first fish may be E. obesus. Did you collect it yourself?

No, we didn't keep the hogsucker. It was rather large and I don't have the right setup for one. We did collect that Enneacanthus and it is the one in the ID section that I had problems with.

First fish looks like a definite gloriosus to me. The "gilt" doesn't look like a gilt to me? Is there something else it could be?

I'm starting to think the same about the E. gloriosus. Is it a female? It looks and acts different than the other bluespotted that I have.
Regarding the gilt, I believe it is a female gilt darter. We collected it with other gilt darters. Similar fish would be the blackside darter but I don't believe it to be that.

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#6 Guest_ShinersRock_*

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 08:36 PM

The Mountain Redbellies look very nice! Where did you collect such pretty fish? I hope to have a group of my own in my 55g in the fall.

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#7 Guest_Brooklamprey_*

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 08:52 PM

Please tell me your going to try spawning those MRBD

It would be great to try and get these fish established as captive bred stock...

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#8 Guest_drewish_*

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 09:08 PM

You should see the MRBD when they are colored up! They were collected in the Shenandoah Valley Region. According to Jenkins & Burkhead, these fish are not native to this region but are abundant where found.

BL, I'm setting up a tank specifically for breeding them. They usually spawn in the nests of various chubs. I've read that they will spawn over gravel though so I'm crossing my fingers.

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#9 Guest_choupique_*

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 09:34 PM

I'm starting to think the same about the E. gloriosus. Is it a female? It looks and acts different than the other bluespotted that I have.

Could be a female, or just juvenile coloration. I have not noticed a difference in how males and females act, in obesus or gloriosus. I sure wish chaetodon would give it up more easily.

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#10 Guest_eLeMeNt_*

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Posted 25 December 2006 - 12:12 PM

I have a little E. Obesus that looks very similar to the one in the picture, except its bands definitely stand out. I hear that E. Obesus and E. Gloriosus look very similar when young and that a scale count around the caudal peduncle is necessary in some cases. I've only seen adult E. Gloriosus before. Not sure what the younger ones look like.

Do you have any other pictures of your other E. Gloriosus that you could post Drewish? I'm curious to see what they look like.

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#11 Guest_drewish_*

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Posted 28 December 2006 - 12:12 AM

Element, I will see if I can find or get a good one.

Dustin, maybe this is why it looks off?

The gilt darter described from Indiana in 1877, and the southern P. palmaris compose the subgenus Ericosma. Of the three subspecies of the gilt darter, P. e. evides occurs in Virginia. The other two can be regarded as formally described by Denoncourt in 1969