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Eastern US Trip

Started by Guest_bumpylemon_* , Aug 27 2009 06:27 PM

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#1 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 06:27 PM

this is just an idea... i was wondering who is available that weekend. i wouldnt mind trying to organize some sort of trip to maybe Virginia...western ny, western PA, just somewhere where there is enough different species then what we have up here in mass. im sure that firstchaos would be able to attend. i dont know who could host us that weekend. i would like to leave on friday night from here and start driving and get all day saturday to fish. maybe someone has a place where we could sleep on friday night. just an idea..im going to look at some possible destinations. whoever drives we could split gas and take turns driving stuff like that. i hope someone is down...it would be nice if a bunch of members could all do this together.

#2 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 06:32 PM

from me to Erie, Pa its 8 hours. thats doable.

i dont know the areas of virginia that is good to go or w. virginia. or where the ohio boys on this forum are from.

deleware, new jersey, new york, maryland, eastern ohio, northern and eastern West Virginia, centrel, northern, eastern virginia,

those are all doable given someone else that could meet up and we split gas and what not. that could be doable. i dont know if there are any diehards like me out here...this is prob the only weekend my wifey would let me get away with this. i hope some of you fellows are available.

Edited by bumpylemon, 27 August 2009 - 06:36 PM.

#3 Guest_lozgod_*

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 07:16 PM

I am new to Baltimore but am originally from Delaware. Delaware's streams and creeks seem so less stocked as when I was a kid. Pollution is big time in Delaware. I would probably bypass DE.

#4 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 27 August 2009 - 07:17 PM

yeah i think someone else on here was saying that as well. i dont even think they have something that other states dont have. i would love to go to the darter locations...obviously.

#5 Guest_FirstChAoS_*

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 05:59 PM

I'd be interested in a eastern trip, but more interested in someone to help me seine my local brooks.

#6 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 06:08 PM

why seine our own waters for literally 2 species when you can get those same species and about 75 more species out there? makes no sense. Posted Image

#7 Guest_FirstChAoS_*

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 08:08 PM

1. to know what is their as pre-seining research leads to lots of conflicting data.

2. to replace my longnose dace and white sucker that died and to get some redbelly dace.

#8 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 08:19 PM

Well there are literally like 4 things in that drainage. And all those plus 70 more u can get in NY or anywhere else. I mean u live there. U can try out that area everyday. I wouldn't pass up a trip where there are 15 species of darters for some redbelly dace or longnose. That's just crazy lol

#9 Guest_PhilipKukulski_*

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 09:38 PM

PA seems to have many species listed as protected.

#10 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 06:38 AM

PA seems to have many species listed as protected.

^yup

looks like we will be taking 81 down to Marion, VA.

#11 Guest_sonix215_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 07:12 AM

this a definite? what about somewhere in NY? Albany perhaps?

Edited by sonix215, 29 August 2009 - 07:57 AM.

#12 Guest_FirstChAoS_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:19 AM

Well there are literally like 4 things in that drainage. And all those plus 70 more u can get in NY or anywhere else. I mean u live there. U can try out that area everyday. I wouldn't pass up a trip where there are 15 species of darters for some redbelly dace or longnose. That's just crazy lol

I didn't say i'd pass up the trip, i'd love to go.

I just want help sampling local waters some time. Their is more to sampling than a pokemon "gotta catch them all" mentality, I really want to know what is in my local waters and where and why.

I mean what are those minnows that are too fast and warry for me to get with a dip net? What were those two small fish with the strongly forked tail i saw in the connecticut river swimming downstream along the shore by the vernon dam? How can different minnows live together and not outcompete each other? All this I am curious about. I also want to be collecting, but I want more than to just collect.

As I said I didn't pass on the trip, I just really would prefer help sampling the local waters some time.

If I can make it to the trip I will go.

#13 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:26 AM

i hear you....well here is the deal..looks like we should leave next friday night. head to keepnatives....then head down to virginia. it should be about 80-100 bucks a person for gas. now we are just trying to find a vehichle to take. mikes van cant be used becuase he needs it to drive to florida for the conference. my wife is taking my jeep to rhode island that weekend. (thats why im able to go on this trip)

there is nothing wrong with wanting to sample NH waters...or mass waters for that matter...but the reality is those shiners were prob commons, goldens, or fallfish. the only people who care about helping us siene are gonna be people who want to do our brackish and salt. im gonna post a list of the fish we will catch donw in VA. for starters drool over this pic Posted Image

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now do you still want your northern redbellies? lol

#14 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:28 AM

josh check this saffron shiner out...

hey ashton...would you be able to come down from Maryland and do some sampling?

#15 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:31 AM

Edited by bumpylemon, 29 August 2009 - 10:32 AM.

#16 Guest_ashtonmj_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:32 AM

Their is more to sampling than a pokemon "gotta catch them all" mentality, I really want to know what is in my local waters and where and why.

Haven't heard that in a while, glad I did thoough. Kudos to you.

#17 Guest_ashtonmj_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:33 AM

Nope, sorry I'll be in Nashville for the next week.

#18 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:34 AM

warpaint shiner

sucks to hear that

#19 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:35 AM

josh here is what are in your waters

Fish in HUC #1080201

Scientific Name Common Name Occurrence Status
Salmo salar Atlantic Salmon Current
Etheostoma olmstedi Tessellated Darter Current
Alosa aestivalis Blueback Herring Current
Alosa sapidissima American Shad Current
Coregonus clupeaformis Lake Whitefish Current
Salvelinus fontinalis Brook Trout Current
Salvelinus namaycush Lake Trout Current
Esox niger Chain Pickerel Current
Hybognathus regius Eastern Silvery Minnow Current
Notropis bifrenatus Bridle Shiner Current
Luxilus cornutus Common Shiner Current
Rhinichthys atratulus Blacknose Dace Current
Semotilus corporalis Fallfish Current
Rhinichthys cataractae Longnose Dace Current
Ameiurus nebulosus Brown Bullhead Current
Fundulus diaphanus Banded Killifish Current
Morone americana White Perch Current
Lepomis auritus Redbreast Sunfish Current
Enneacanthus obesus Banded Sunfish Current
Lepomis gibbosus Pumpkinseed Current
Cottus cognatus Slimy Sculpin Current
Perca flavescens Yellow Perch Current
Anguilla rostrata American Eel Current
Catostomus commersoni White Sucker Current
Esox americanus Redfin or Grass Pickerel Current
Lota lota Burbot Current
Notemigonus crysoleucas Golden Shiner Current
Notropis hudsonius Spottail Shiner Current
Petromyzon marinus Sea Lamprey Current
Semotilus atromaculatus Creek Chub Current
Acipenser brevirostrum Shortnose Sturgeon Current
Couesius plumbeus Lake Chub Current
Catostomus catostomus Longnose Sucker Historical
Erimyzon oblongus Creek Chubsucker Historical
Acipenser oxyrinchus Atlantic Sturgeon Historical
Salvelinus agassizi Silver Trout Historical

#20 Guest_bumpylemon_*

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 10:35 AM

and this in your other drainage

Scientific Name Common Name Occurrence Status
Alosa pseudoharengus Alewife Current
Coregonus clupeaformis Lake Whitefish Current
Salvelinus fontinalis Brook Trout Current
Couesius plumbeus Lake Chub Current
Salvelinus namaycush Lake Trout Current
Notropis bifrenatus Bridle Shiner Current
Luxilus cornutus Common Shiner Current
Rhinichthys atratulus Blacknose Dace Current
Semotilus corporalis Fallfish Current
Rhinichthys cataractae Longnose Dace Current
Catostomus commersoni White Sucker Current
Ameiurus nebulosus Brown Bullhead Current
Morone americana White Perch Current
Lepomis auritus Redbreast Sunfish Current
Enneacanthus obesus Banded Sunfish Current
Lepomis gibbosus Pumpkinseed Current
Fundulus diaphanus Banded Killifish Current
Esox niger Chain Pickerel Current
Notemigonus crysoleucas Golden Shiner Current
Etheostoma olmstedi Tessellated Darter Current
Perca flavescens Yellow Perch Current