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Welaka spawning sites


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Posted 13 July 2010 - 08:53 AM

I was wondering
how many people have every been to a site where Pteronotropis welaka ( Bluenose Shiner )were actually spawning?

I haven't.

I'd like to talk to those who have.

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 09:50 PM

I have. What would you like to know?

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 08:14 AM

Live food blooms
flow (rate)
substrate
substrate in sunfish nests
still water / swamp upstream?
still water / heavy with plants for fry after hatching
Spring / groundwater
local sunfish species
(gambusia)
size of school / spawning group of Welakas
cover for adult Welakas
timing of Welaka spawn (anytime / after sunfish / after sunfish hatch)
[ both fry seems to become free-swimming at the same time in my ponds]
spawn after a rain / surge of water / drop in water temperature
other fish nearby?

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 10:20 PM

Live food blooms
flow (rate)
substrate
substrate in sunfish nests
still water / swamp upstream?
still water / heavy with plants for fry after hatching
Spring / groundwater
local sunfish species
(gambusia)
size of school / spawning group of Welakas
cover for adult Welakas
timing of Welaka spawn (anytime / after sunfish / after sunfish hatch)
[ both fry seems to become free-swimming at the same time in my ponds]
spawn after a rain / surge of water / drop in water temperature
other fish nearby?


Wow, well, I can give a few of these a shot.

Flow rate - moderate? But since the spawning site is in a pool below an outflow, not so much.
Substrate is sandy or muddy. In the nests the sand is swept away to reveal pebbles underneath.
Local sunfish species = megalotis - don't recall what else.
Size of school - maybe 20-30 welakas
Timing: They dart into the sunfish nest while the sunny is chasing something else. So pretty much while the sunny eggs are still maturing.
Plants: heavy emergent vegetation UPSTREAM of the spawning site, maybe 10-20 meters upstream? This is where the juveniles are collected. This may vary according to location.
Temp: Water runs almost constant temp year round (sorry, no data).
Other fish nearby: Typically cherryfin shiners. gulf darters, maybe flagfins (depends on location).

You really should talk to Charles Knight about this.



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