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Elassoma ID, please.

Started by Guest_manticora_* , Mar 28 2012 08:50 AM

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#1 Guest_manticora_*

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:50 AM

Can anyone ID me this Elassoma?
I got them from a friend from America.
Thanks,
Knut

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#2 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:54 AM

Elassoma zonatum

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#3 Guest_manticora_*

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:59 AM

Okay, how you can see that? Can you give me a short explanation?
Knut:-)

Edited by manticora, 28 March 2012 - 09:04 AM.

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#4 Michael Wolfe

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North Georgia, Oconee River Drainage

Posted 28 March 2012 - 09:30 AM

definitively banded... what I see is an overall longer looking fish (not as stubby as everglades or okefenokee)... also the obvious dark band separated by the lighter spaces (hence the name), the other pygmies are never this obviously banded... then I see the over all specked nature of the face (and really the whole body in this individual) and fins... and the teardrop line which is often more pronounced but is present in this individual.

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#5 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:10 AM

definitively banded... what I see is an overall longer looking fish (not as stubby as everglades or okefenokee)... also the obvious dark band separated by the lighter spaces (hence the name), the other pygmies are never this obviously banded... then I see the over all specked nature of the face (and really the whole body in this individual) and fins... and the teardrop line which is often more pronounced but is present in this individual.

yup. *nods*

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#6 Guest_manticora_*

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:13 AM

Thank you. :-)

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#7 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:13 PM

Would you mind donating a photo to our Elassoma ID section? There are not currently any photos posted for Elassoma zonatum. If you agree to donate one you can post it here or send it in a private message to Drew. I think Drew might be the only one who can add photos to the ID page; I unfortunately can not.

Link to Elassoma Pictoral ID Key: http://forum.nanfa.o...elassoma-genus/

I think what they're looking for in an ID photo is a photo of the fish taken from the side that shows its entire body.
Like these ones:
http://gallery.nanfa...7-28-09_ NT.jpg
http://gallery.nanfa...icture 0438.jpg

Edited by EricaWieser, 28 March 2012 - 01:27 PM.

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#8 Guest_gerald_*

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 04:25 PM

I'm going to go further and guess it's a zonatum from the Gulf river drainages, not an Atlantic slope zonatum, based on the heavy speckled pattern. Does your friend know where in America it was caught? He looks very well fed!

Another zonatum characteristic is the dark stripe extending backward behind the eye, sometimes forming a dark blotch where it intersects the vertical bars. (The stripe and blotch can appear or disappear according to mood).

Edited by gerald, 28 March 2012 - 04:29 PM.

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#9 Guest_jetajockey_*

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:02 AM

Beautiful specimen. I have some that look pretty similar, have a look at this thread for comparison.

http://forum.nanfa.o...-pygmy-sunfish/

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#10 Guest_manticora_*

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:40 AM

Thanks for all the Information.
The guy I got them from is from Florida. But i don´t know where the fish is exactly from.
Yes, them well feed. Them get Moskitolarvaes right now. And them started to mate the last days.
To donate a picture is possible. I will contact Erica Wieser.
Knut