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Does anyone want to go seine with me this weekend?

Started by Guest_EricaWieser_* , Apr 13 2012 10:10 AM

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#1 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:10 AM

Hi everybody,

The high temperature is 73 F on Saturday and my schedule is open. Does anyone want to go out and look at the spring time fish together? I'm in Winston-Salem, North Carolina and I have a fishing license, seine, umbrella net, and snorkel mask.

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Erica Wieser

#2 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

Also, if anyone know of any good stream locations to seine at, please tell me. Department of wildlife websites focus on lakes, and lists like this don't specify whether or not you can fish there: http://www.myfishmap...treams/Forsyth/

#3 Guest_jetajockey_*

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 01:14 PM

Best of luck out there, I'm going dipnetting this weekend myself.

#4 Guest_danawhicker_*

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:26 PM

Yeah I'm going out this weekend too. Best of luck all!

#5 Guest_Yeahson421_*

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:35 PM

I'm actually going to be in NC this week, but over the weekend I'll be at the coast. Good luck!

#6 Guest_davidjh2_*

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:56 PM

I'll using the net myself this weekend. Good luck everyone. Erica I'll be coming down to NC sometime in the summer to visit my sister who just moved there. How far are you from Fayetteville?

#7 Guest_gerald_*

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:27 PM

I'd suggest Town Fork Creek near NC-8 and NC-65 at Germanton, 10 mi north of W-S (Roanoke basin). It has redbelly dace, crescent shiner, redlip shiner, rosefin shiner, satinfin shiner, bluehead chub, margined madtom, Roanoke darter, tesselated darter, glassy darter, etc. It is shallow, rocky and wadeable -- good for chub nest watching and seining. Yadkin tributaries in NW Forsyth Co might be good too: Muddy Cr, Bashavia Cr, Fries Cr, etc. In general the Roanoke has more colorful species of small fish than the Yadkin or Cape Fear basins. I've got family stuff this weekend. Get a NC Atlas & Gazeteer if you dont have one yet.

Also, if anyone know of any good stream locations to seine at, please tell me. Department of wildlife websites focus on lakes, and lists like this don't specify whether or not you can fish there: http://www.myfishmap...treams/Forsyth/

#8 Guest_scottsquatch_*

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:01 PM

Dang Erica, If I was in North Carolina I totally would. Why can't anybody around here just offer to go seine the creeks with whoever wants to go. If I don't get a chance to go collecting soon, I will go nuts. I have a 55 all prepped for fish and everything. Anyway, Good luck!

Scott

#9 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:42 AM

How far are you from Fayetteville?

Two and a half hours

#10 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:44 AM

I'd suggest Town Fork Creek near NC-8 and NC-65 at Germanton, 10 mi north of W-S (Roanoke basin). It has redbelly dace, crescent shiner, redlip shiner, rosefin shiner, satinfin shiner, bluehead chub, margined madtom, Roanoke darter, tesselated darter, glassy darter, etc. It is shallow, rocky and wadeable -- good for chub nest watching and seining.

Sweet, thank you for the suggestion. So, how do we go about going there? I don't see a park entrance on the map, just people's houses and fields. Is it okay to park the car by the side of the road, get out with the seine, and wander around? I don't want to go tramping through someone's backyard and then be all awkward.

I've got two people going with me, so I'm going to present both options to them and let them decide. Right now it's looking like:
1. Gerald's suggested place. Pro: guaranteed fish Con: potentially running into someone who's like, "Why are you in my backyard?"
2. Kernersville Lake. Pro: Legal designated fishing spot. There appears to be a creek that runs from Belews Lake into Kernersville Lake, and that creek might have fish in it. Con: It might not. There might not even be a stream there. There is guaranteed to be a lake, though, but my widdle baby seine wasn't really built for that and the goal here was to see springtime colorful minnows and darters.

I'm going to write down directions to both and let the people I'm taking on the trip with me decide. I think I'm rooting for Gerald's spot, as I have used google maps to find a patch of gravel far away from anybody's house that I could park the car on. So sketchy though...

Edited by EricaWieser, 14 April 2012 - 10:05 AM.

#11 Guest_VicC_*

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:01 PM

Good Luck Erica.

#12 Guest_gerald_*

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:00 PM

I usually try to pick places where the creek is borderd by woods, not a house, but sometimes I do go in adjacent to houses. On most state/county roads the DOT right-of-way exntends 30ft or so beyond the pavement. In 20+ years nobody has told me to leave (although a few dogs have, not always politely). The few people who have come over to see why I'm there are usually curious and most are amazed when you show them a colorful Roanoke darter or crescent shiner.

There are no darters in NC Piedmont lakes - only in flowing streams, and golden shiner is normally the only minnow in Piedmont lakes. Bluegill, pumpkinseed, green sun, LM bass, mosquitofish, and bluegill are mostly what you'll catch along the shoreline in Piedmont lakes. Oh - and bluegill too.

Edited by gerald, 14 April 2012 - 04:04 PM.

#13 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:12 PM

Trip report:

I convinced my friends to join me at Gerald's suggested creek. I told them if we got kicked off of the land by the people who owned it we could always still go to the official park. So, we headed out.

I am going to post the following pictures as hyperlinks to their storage location on photobucket.com. The amount of space I have to display pictures here in my NANFA posts is limited and I don't think these are worthy of going in the gallery. So, here goes.

We first had to figure out where to park. This was my first 'hop out of the car and look for fish' adventure, so I was a little nervous. It turns out that one of the house-like buildings was an empty boy scout's meeting place, so we parked in front of it and got out of the car. That was nice because there were steps leading down behind the building to the stream.

There was a nice mowed lawn area
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fringed by bamboo
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that I guess is used for turkey hunting or something?
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We figured they probably wouldn't shoot us, so we headed down to the stream
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but once we got down to it I noticed an ominous amount of dead bivalves
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and although we waded up and down the stream for a while, we didn't see a single fishy or crayfishy form of life.
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It was still a pretty place and a very nice stream
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but yeah, something bad happened here
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Hopefully the abundance of insects means that the fish can come back. But they're not there now. Or at least, we couldn't find any.

#14 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:15 PM

I usually try to pick places where the creek is borderd by woods, not a house, but sometimes I do go in adjacent to houses. On most state/county roads the DOT right-of-way exntends 30ft or so beyond the pavement. In 20+ years nobody has told me to leave (although a few dogs have, not always politely). The few people who have come over to see why I'm there are usually curious and most are amazed when you show them a colorful Roanoke darter or crescent shiner.

Yeah, I am less worried about that too now that I have done it.

There are no darters in NC Piedmont lakes - only in flowing streams, and golden shiner is normally the only minnow in Piedmont lakes. Bluegill, pumpkinseed, green sun, LM bass, mosquitofish, and bluegill are mostly what you'll catch along the shoreline in Piedmont lakes. Oh - and bluegill too.

There is a stream in the Kernersville Lake park. It flows from Belews Lake and seems to be quite large in the Belews Creek region. I'm not sure what it's like near Kernersville Lake though. That's why we went to your location. Thank you for suggesting it. The creek is beautiful there.

Edited by EricaWieser, 14 April 2012 - 04:16 PM.

#15 Guest_smilingfrog_*

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:52 AM

Did you try to catch anything with a seine or dipnet? Some of the streams I catch darters in we don't see anything till we lift the seine, but when we lift it, there they are.

#16 Guest_farmertodd_*

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:54 AM

I guess you can lead 'em to oreas, but you can't make 'em seine.

#17 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:44 AM

Did you try to catch anything with a seine or dipnet? Some of the streams I catch darters in we don't see anything till we lift the seine, but when we lift it, there they are.

No, we didn't try to run the seine. The pictures don't do it justice; there was literally nothing there. Not a single fish.

Edited by EricaWieser, 15 April 2012 - 11:44 AM.

#18 Guest_EricaWieser_*

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:45 AM

I guess you can lead 'em to oreas, but you can't make 'em seine.

I stood there with my seine ready and looked for a good spot to put it down. There were no fish. Just lots and lots of dead bivalves.

Edited by EricaWieser, 15 April 2012 - 11:47 AM.

#19 Guest_steve_*

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 01:26 PM

Erica, I'm not disputing what you're saying, since you were there and I wasn't, but not seeing fish doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't fish there. When I come to a place like that where I see no fish, I sit still and quietly on the bank where I can see in the water, but my shadow isn't on the water and in a little while fish appear. They're very good at hiding and can be quite skittish, especially when they've just witnessed an invasion, like a family of raccoons or such feeding on bunch of bivalves. When you appear, they assume that you're the next attack from above. Often, when I don't see fish, but seine a fishy looking spot, I find something. Another approach is to set a minnow trap in a good fishy looking spot and retreat from the area for a half hour or so. I wish you the best of luck if you're trying again today.

Steve