David,
July 6th will be our day for the Delaware. Let me know where/when you want to get everyone together.
Mark
NJ Pine barrens sampling / collecting trips
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 02:54 PM
That's going to be a problem Mark. I was hoping the Delaware trip would be be on the 7th since I can't take off that Friday. Now if anyone can make it on the 3rd I'm off the 2nd and the 3rd and I will be going fishing/sampling both days including the Delaware.
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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:42 PM
The primary spot was going to be
Prallsville Mills
33 Risler Street, Stockton, NJ 08559
There is a small parking lot with access to the river below a spillway that comes off of the canal. The area is usually very shallow and easy to sample especially when you walk across to the other side of the spillway and work the shallows between the falls and the spillway. I've caught a very nice variety of fish there. It's a nice fairly easy spot to sample.
A secondary spot is across the river and maybe half a mile north of the spot in Stockton. If you go back into Stockton and make a right(if you're coming from the Prallsville Mills spot) onto Bridge street you cross over the river and make a right onto rte 32. You pass by a great spot for lunch btw called Dilly's. You'll drive about a mile or mile and a half and there is a small state park on the right. The water can be a bit deeper and runs fast in spots so I recommend it only for people comfortable in the water. I can't find the name of the park but I may go there Tuesday so I can get the name of the park and a report on the conditions.
A but further north is Bulls Island a state park on the NJ side. There should be some good sampling near the wing that is a little ways above the pedestrian bridge and main parking lot.
Prallsville Mills
33 Risler Street, Stockton, NJ 08559
There is a small parking lot with access to the river below a spillway that comes off of the canal. The area is usually very shallow and easy to sample especially when you walk across to the other side of the spillway and work the shallows between the falls and the spillway. I've caught a very nice variety of fish there. It's a nice fairly easy spot to sample.
A secondary spot is across the river and maybe half a mile north of the spot in Stockton. If you go back into Stockton and make a right(if you're coming from the Prallsville Mills spot) onto Bridge street you cross over the river and make a right onto rte 32. You pass by a great spot for lunch btw called Dilly's. You'll drive about a mile or mile and a half and there is a small state park on the right. The water can be a bit deeper and runs fast in spots so I recommend it only for people comfortable in the water. I can't find the name of the park but I may go there Tuesday so I can get the name of the park and a report on the conditions.
A but further north is Bulls Island a state park on the NJ side. There should be some good sampling near the wing that is a little ways above the pedestrian bridge and main parking lot.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 09:32 AM
We had 2 great days of collecting with Gerald Pottern this past weekend. We hit 3 sites in PA on Friday and got 14 species. We went to 4 sites in NJ on Saturday and caught more species than we did on Friday. I'll post more details later.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 10:06 PM
We never made it into the Delaware. Our PA collecting on 7/6 was a lot of fun nonetheless. We started out in Pennypack Creek, where we caught:
Red Breast Sunfish
White Sucker
Common Shiner
Spottail Shiner
Banded Killifish
Blacknose Dace
Creek Chub
hybrid sunfish or possibly sunfish/bluegill
crayfish
Many of these fish went to restocking the tanks at the Pennypack Nature Center.
The place we tried to stop at a small tributary of the Delaware is now posted as private property so we skipped that one. We went on to a small creek in Phillips Mill where we caught:
Brown Trout
Banded Killifish
Blacknose Dace
Creek Chub
Fallfish
Common Shiner
Green Sunfish
Corbicula Clam
At a creek in Lumberville we caught:
Blacknose Dace
Longnose Dace
Creek Chub
Common Shiner
Cutlip Minnow
Tesselated Darter
Bluegill
Green Sunfish
White Sucker
Red Salamander
Two Lined Salamander
Red Breast Sunfish
White Sucker
Common Shiner
Spottail Shiner
Banded Killifish
Blacknose Dace
Creek Chub
hybrid sunfish or possibly sunfish/bluegill
crayfish
Many of these fish went to restocking the tanks at the Pennypack Nature Center.
The place we tried to stop at a small tributary of the Delaware is now posted as private property so we skipped that one. We went on to a small creek in Phillips Mill where we caught:
Brown Trout
Banded Killifish
Blacknose Dace
Creek Chub
Fallfish
Common Shiner
Green Sunfish
Corbicula Clam
At a creek in Lumberville we caught:
Blacknose Dace
Longnose Dace
Creek Chub
Common Shiner
Cutlip Minnow
Tesselated Darter
Bluegill
Green Sunfish
White Sucker
Red Salamander
Two Lined Salamander
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 10:36 PM
You found trout and banded killifish in the same stream? That's really interesting to as the habitat I have seen them in has seemed like polar opposites. I am rather surprised you didn't find any sculpin in that trout stream too.
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Posted 12 July 2012 - 08:01 AM
You found trout and banded killifish in the same stream? That's really interesting to as the habitat I have seen them in has seemed like polar opposites. I am rather surprised you didn't find any sculpin in that trout stream too.
I grew up along the perkiomen river in PA. I used to be able to catch trout in the riffle above a calm area where the banded killies lived. That was until the mobile home park did some illegal construction & run off caused a big fish kill. Havent seen them again in the wild till the other year when I located a school by a creek crossing near one of my hunting spots. They're bad bait, not very active on the hook unlike the black nosed dace.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 03:54 PM
My records of our NJ Pine Barrens collections on July 7 are:
1) Batsto Lake & River: American eel (LOTS, from 3" to 12"), Chain pickerel, Creek chubsucker, Largemouth bass, Pumpkinseed sunfish, Blackbanded sunfish. (I enjoyed seeing the eel & shad ladder - pix below)
2) Mullica River SE of Batsto Lake: Golden shiner, Banded killifish, White perch, Yellow perch, Tesselated darter. (Banded killies here had golden fins, vs PA ones (from rocky flowing streams) with clear or silvery fins).
3) Lake Absegami: Chain pickerel, Banded sunfish, Swamp darter.
4) Lake near Toms River: Chain pickerel, Creek chubsucker, Pirate perch, Mud sunfish, Blackbanded sunfish, Banded sunfish, Bluespotted sunfish, Swamp darter. (My first time seeing all 3 Enneacanthus spp at one site).
It was interesting that sub-adult (2") banded sunfish in NJ can have some red-orange in the anal fin, a characteristic I thought was limited to bluespotted sunfish (based on my limited experience with NC/SC specimens).
Diagram of eel & shad ladder
Fish ladder lower entrance (river) view from dam
Fish ladder lower entrance (river) close-up view
Fish ladder roof decking, view from dam
Fish ladder upper entrance/exit (Batsto Lake)
Batsto historic lumber mill (dam built to run saws)
Inside the Batsto lumber mill
1) Batsto Lake & River: American eel (LOTS, from 3" to 12"), Chain pickerel, Creek chubsucker, Largemouth bass, Pumpkinseed sunfish, Blackbanded sunfish. (I enjoyed seeing the eel & shad ladder - pix below)
2) Mullica River SE of Batsto Lake: Golden shiner, Banded killifish, White perch, Yellow perch, Tesselated darter. (Banded killies here had golden fins, vs PA ones (from rocky flowing streams) with clear or silvery fins).
3) Lake Absegami: Chain pickerel, Banded sunfish, Swamp darter.
4) Lake near Toms River: Chain pickerel, Creek chubsucker, Pirate perch, Mud sunfish, Blackbanded sunfish, Banded sunfish, Bluespotted sunfish, Swamp darter. (My first time seeing all 3 Enneacanthus spp at one site).
It was interesting that sub-adult (2") banded sunfish in NJ can have some red-orange in the anal fin, a characteristic I thought was limited to bluespotted sunfish (based on my limited experience with NC/SC specimens).
Diagram of eel & shad ladder
Fish ladder lower entrance (river) view from dam
Fish ladder lower entrance (river) close-up view
Fish ladder roof decking, view from dam
Fish ladder upper entrance/exit (Batsto Lake)
Batsto historic lumber mill (dam built to run saws)
Inside the Batsto lumber mill
Edited by gerald, 15 July 2012 - 04:14 PM.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:46 PM
Where is this place and what is its name?This is one of the spots I have in mind. The water is about a foot higher then usual, the area to the left is usually dry land and there are a lot of rocks to flip over and a lot of small fish to chase/catch.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:58 PM
This is the Delaware river in the town of Stockton. There is a spillway to the right that comes from the Delaware-Raritan canal. On the other side of the canal is Prallsville Mills an old mill that has been converted into a museum.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 01:05 PM
ok thanks.i wwish i knew about this collecting trip, it sounded fun!This is the Delaware river in the town of Stockton. There is a spillway to the right that comes from the Delaware-Raritan canal. On the other side of the canal is Prallsville Mills an old mill that has been converted into a museum.
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 01:05 PM
what can you catch in there?This is the Delaware river in the town of Stockton. There is a spillway to the right that comes from the Delaware-Raritan canal. On the other side of the canal is Prallsville Mills an old mill that has been converted into a museum.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:18 PM
On rod and reel? I've caught large and smallmouth bass, channel catfish,walleye,red breast and bluegill sunfish, stocked trout in the spring, striped bass up to maybe 3 pounds and eels.
With a dipnet? Fallfish, Blacknosed Dace, Tessellated Darters and various shiners. I haven't really worked the are too hard with a dipnet it's mostly a fishing spot for me.
With a dipnet? Fallfish, Blacknosed Dace, Tessellated Darters and various shiners. I haven't really worked the are too hard with a dipnet it's mostly a fishing spot for me.
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