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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:54 PM

Centrarchus macropterus.

Weird, huh?

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:23 PM

OK - i looked again and compared some pics: you guys are right, the saffron is a saffron.
Dustin what's your thought on the fish labelled "comely shiner" ?
Chub w/o tubercles: i dunno about the slim head thing ... Help! Fritz!

I'm not sure I have ever disagreed with Gerald on NC fish but I agree with Ben that the saffron is a saffron.



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Posted 28 October 2013 - 06:22 AM

I have to admit, I have never seen a comely shiner that I know of so I don't really have an opinion. It appears to be a Notropis rather than a Cyprinella to me though, but that could change with a better photo.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 02:25 PM

It appears to be a Notropis rather than a Cyprinella to me though, but that could change with a better photo.


Sorry, that's as good as I could do at midnight with a headlamp.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 03:01 PM

The photos are great Ben. I wouldn't apologize. Gerald - are blueheads in the Eno? That would be how I would separate them if appropriate. I will agree with Ben that it looks different from blueheads but I can't put my finger on why and certainly couldn't be sure without tubercles.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:08 PM

Yup -- the Neuse, Tar and Dan/Roanoke river basins have both bluehead and bull chubs. In small creeks I think they're all blueheads, but in bigger creeks and rivers we have both species, with blueheads generally more common. Maybe I'll be a bluehead chub for Halloween - my son is an Enderman. I wonder how big a rock I can carry around in my mouth for an hour or two?

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:43 PM

Yup -- the Neuse, Tar and Dan/Roanoke river basins have both bluehead and bull chubs. In small creeks I think they're all blueheads, but in bigger creeks and rivers we have both species, with blueheads generally more common. Maybe I'll be a bluehead chub for Halloween - my son is an Enderman. I wonder how big a rock I can carry around in my mouth for an hour or two?

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 08:36 AM

Here are some photos from Miciah.

Fish #1 - Chub from the Eno River.
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Fish #2 - Shiner from New River tributary creek.
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Fish #3 - Shiner from New River tributary creek.
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Fish #4 - Shiner from Clinch River tributary creek.
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Fish #5 - Shiner from Clinch River tributary creek.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 08:53 AM

I can see red in the fins, so that should rule out bigeye chub?

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 10:59 PM

I think I recall seeing amblops (bigeye chub) with a little red in the fins, probably in French Broad or Toe River basins.
Shiner from New River looks like saffron again.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:22 PM

Damnit Gerald, don't erode my confidence!

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:10 AM

What about the black on the lips? I don't see black on the lips in photos of bigeye chubs.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:48 PM

hmmm ... i might be thinking of spectrunculus, not amblops. I just dont get to those TN basins very often, so those spp aren't as clear in my memory as atlantic slope spp, Do red fins and dark lips "fit" spectrunculus?

I think I recall seeing amblops (bigeye chub) with a little red in the fins, probably in French Broad or Toe River basins.
Shiner from New River looks like saffron again.





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