He has characteristics of bluegill, pumpkinseed, and green sunfish. Lepomis sunfish will readily hybridize, and like others said, it is very hard to find out exactly what they are. Let's just call him a blumkingreen.
Any chance of him allowing a tankmate? (bluegill)
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 04:54 PM
Greengill is cyanellus/macrochirus. The other possibility is cyanellus/gibbosus. I don't think anyone who has commented so far is 100% sure. There are a couple of sunfish specialists on the forum that might get you closer. Members Centrarchid and Smbass. Even then from photos alone, they may not feel 100% about it. PM them, and see if they can help you nail it down.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:02 PM
The white edging on the fins is classic Green. Anything beyond that and I'm just guessing.....
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:03 PM
The white edging on the fins is classic Green. Anything beyond that and I'm just guessing.....
Join the crowd. It's L. cyanellus x somethingus.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:04 PM
Ok so that does make him a male? I call him a male because well I just do. I did read that the males will nest. SO is he just marking his territory and letting the females (that don't exist) know he is there? I have no idea about fish I'm a dog person and that behavior makes since in dog terms. lol
Very normal, apparently he is male.
Sounds like he's getting in the mood. Even though he has no tankmates, temperature and instinct probably has him thinking.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:07 PM
Blumingreen HA I like it! ok so when I first was calling him a hybrid I was right. I just took the word on another fish forum when they all started saying Bluegill. Shows what those guppy lovers know. Jk of course no offense ment to any guppy lovers on here.He has characteristics of bluegill, pumpkinseed, and green sunfish. Lepomis sunfish will readily hybridize, and like others said, it is very hard to find out exactly what they are. Let's just call him a blumkingreen.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:11 PM
It's a boy! The nesting is surely male. LoL! They need to have AncestryDNA for sunfish.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:31 PM
Right! Bet it would be as actuate as the dog ones though. Get it back. That there blood means you got a genuine Florida gar mixed with a touch of field mouse. LolIt's a boy! The nesting is surely male. LoL! They need to have AncestryDNA for sunfish.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:34 PM
So on the topic of bullhead catfish. Any particular one? I'm not to keen on coming home from work and some fat headed bottom feeder chowing down on my boy. Plus currently he's in a 55 gallon. I could easily find a place for a 75 but much bigger than that it would have to wait untill i build my koi pond. Any type of bullhead you think would be better than another.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 05:52 PM
75 would be better. One of the smaller bullheads would be best. I just mention them because they are not very aggressive and I have never seen Lepomis target them either.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 06:44 PM
Ok cool. Now I just need to figure out where to get one again. Guess it's time to go fishing, what a drag. lol75 would be better. One of the smaller bullheads would be best. I just mention them because they are not very aggressive and I have never seen Lepomis target them either.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:18 PM
I promise that no matter how big of a Bullhead you put in with any Sunfish, you don't have to worry about coming home and finding the Bullhead chowing down on the Sunfish. If the Sunfish fits in the Bullhead's mouth, it will disappear all at once. If it doesn't fit, worry about the Bullhead.
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:12 PM
If you were more local, I would recommend my local Snail Bullhead, they stay a little bit smaller than some of the others and are rather nicely colored. And of course they like eating snails more than they like eating fish (maybe).
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Posted 26 March 2014 - 09:13 PM
My roommate said when she was trying to look up what type her bullhead was she saw a spotted or speckled bullhead and it only get 8-10"? That would probably be just about right I'd think. I would just have to find one close to full grown not a juvenile that BAMF could kill.
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 09:33 AM
lol well I'd prefer him now suck him down either. So I guess I need to find one that will be tough but won't gte big enough to eat him. hummm, any bullhead breeders out there?I promise that no matter how big of a Bullhead you put in with any Sunfish, you don't have to worry about coming home and finding the Bullhead chowing down on the Sunfish. If the Sunfish fits in the Bullhead's mouth, it will disappear all at once. If it doesn't fit, worry about the Bullhead.
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 12:06 PM
I have a question just in general. Do sunfish eat madtoms? Like, could a sunfish eat a four inch long one?
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 12:12 PM
I guess a REALLY big Bluegill could maybe swallow a 4" Madtom........if the 2" Bluegill in the same tank didn't beat the Cat to death first.
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 01:03 PM
Yes, they do. I had pumpkinseeds that ate baby bullheads in a tank one time... started with five of the little guys and thought that they would be able to hide... but only two got big enough to avoid being eaten.
And although I have no experience, I am certain that a green or a warmouth could easily eat a madtom or bull heat that was small (say in the 2 inch range).
And although I have no experience, I am certain that a green or a warmouth could easily eat a madtom or bull heat that was small (say in the 2 inch range).
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Posted 27 March 2014 - 01:57 PM
Thing is my boy will kill then eat fish that are too big for him. I decided to test him with some comet feeders and one was fairly large. Well he just ripped off all its fins then beat it till it died then ate it. It didn't suffer long but it's what made me ask is there anything he could be with that in the same boat wouldn't hurt him besides a plecco?
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Posted 28 March 2014 - 09:35 AM
So would a pumpkinseed be completely unadvisable? They are really beautiful fish the more I look it them.
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