I don't think E. gula can be ruled out from those two unless you get a good photo of the premaxillary pit. I think it is safe to say the upper one is not the fish in your original photo given the shape and fin color and is probably gula. The second one....don't know
Thanks for input Mzokan
After looking again at these pics, I think the original fish (post#3) is E. Harengulus, and I think there's decent chance the fish I have at home (the fish on bottom in post#19) is the same fish. Even if it isnt, I think they are both E. Harengulus. The fish on the top is rounder like E. Gula.
I'm going to take another look tonight at the other pics I have of the original fish and try to make some determinations. I'll crop a better photo of the original. Dont want to push my luck with the DNA people if it's just another E. Gula, so further pre-DNA research is still required.
One thing I meant to note before, the headshot of the mojarra in post#3 is inadmissible evidence, as it was taken 2 hours prior to the other pic in post#3, so it may have been a different fish. Either way it didnt prove useful anyway.
The 2k14 Mojarra Identification Saga has not yet reached it's climactic conclusion.