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[taldridge0321]

Well since its a creek in Waxhaw I would guess Catawba, def not Pee Dee which is where my parents live and may have caused some confusion. Waxhaw is kinda an interesting place, right outside Charlotte but almost in SC, kinda takes a map to get a feel for it. I know what you guys are saying about Brassy Jumprocks but I have pics of them about the same size as this fish and the two aren't the same species. This fish has bigger scales and from what I am learning from you guys on here, scale size is pretty important with Moxo's.

 

Tim

 

There was a storm and this particular creek was flooded more than usual, but the creek isn't more than thirty feet across and usually no more than two feet deep. I have caught interesting things though in creeks after storms. When I was 17 I caught a Walleye of all things, (not a Sauger) in a small Charlotte creek no more than 15 feet wide. I guess the storms bring in fish from all over the area in small creeks.

[gerald]

Yup, Twelvemile Creek (N of Waxhaw) and Waxhaw Creek (S of Waxhaw) both flow west into Catawba River.  Based on distribution maps in Fritz's SC book, Notchlip, Shorthead, and Brassy are your Mox choices in that area.  The watershed divide between those basins is roughly midway between Waxhaw and Monroe (about 7 mi east of Waxhaw).

[taldridge0321]

Yup, Twelvemile Creek (N of Waxhaw) and Waxhaw Creek (S of Waxhaw) both flow west into Catawba River.  Based on distribution maps in Fritz's SC book, Notchlip, Shorthead, and Brassy are your Mox choices in that area.  The watershed divide between those basins is roughly midway between Waxhaw and Monroe (about 7 mi east of Waxhaw).

12 mile creek is where I caught that larger White Sucker a few weeks ago when I first got on NANFA. Nice creek and has tons of arteries that flow in my backyard and through all of Waxhaw. Was really wanting this fish to be something different but oh well. Wish I never would have caught it lol, if I had known what a pain it would have been!

[taldridge0321]

Yup, Twelvemile Creek (N of Waxhaw) and Waxhaw Creek (S of Waxhaw) both flow west into Catawba River.  Based on distribution maps in Fritz's SC book, Notchlip, Shorthead, and Brassy are your Mox choices in that area.  The watershed divide between those basins is roughly midway between Waxhaw and Monroe (about 7 mi east of Waxhaw).

Do we have any decent pics of Notchips to compare? This seems the only logical choice to me.

[olaf]

That's a sweet little fish. I don't have much of a handle on what red-tailed species are in that area, so I'm not going to chime in on ID. If I caught it here, I'd probably just say Shorthead and release it without looking closely. The lower lip isn't as straight as I'd expect, but it is a very small mouth. Dorsal appears to be concave, but I can't count rays (and even convex dorsals can look concave when not erect).
When you take a lateral photo of a redhorse, make sure it doesn't have messed up scales. I try to remember to take photos of both sides so if a count isn't possible on one side it might be on the other.

I would love to expand my site's ID resources to include all of Moxostoma (or maybe all suckers). When I first made the cheat sheets and posters, it was aimed at my region (upper Midwest) and in reaction to misidentified redhorses being posted all over the web and certified as records in some states (like River or Greater Redhorses being certified as Shortheads).
If anyone has a bunch of money and wants to give me a grant to travel the country catching, photographing and drawing the rest of the redhorses and jumprocks, I'm willing.