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#21 Dustin

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:13 AM

Where were you on the Lynches?  We caught broadtails from there once.


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#22 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:20 AM

Where were you on the Lynches?  We caught broadtails from there once.

Near Mcbee, 34. 569506, -80. 376188.



#23 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:22 AM

Also, you are unlikely to find sandhills chubs in the Lynches proper.  The are Semotilus and like small, headwater streams.  You are in the right are but look for small tribs of the Lynches.

Yeah that was the whole reason for the trip, I will check out the smaller creeks next time, it was only an hour drive from me.



#24 Dustin

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:25 AM

CHeck out the Little Lynches and it's tribs.  You may have more success.


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#25 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:28 AM

CHeck out the Little Lynches and it's tribs.  You may have more success.

Sounds good, here is another pic of one of the Madtoms, may help out. madtom.JPG



#26 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:29 AM

Sounds good, here is another pic of one of the Madtoms, may help out. madtom.JPG

 

At first I thought I was just catching a bunch of Margined babies, but all the madtoms were really small even for madtoms.



#27 fritz

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:29 AM

Hmmm. First photo looks more like a margined but the second fuzzy one is intriguing.  That you caught 10 is amazing. I rarely got more than 2 with a backpack shocker.  Can you get a clearer photo?  The blotch on the caudal peduncle and the white lower cheek are good diagnostic characters as well as the stippling

 

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#28 Dustin

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:31 AM

What habitat were you catching the madtoms from?  In the current under rocks or from root balls and leaf litter?


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#29 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:35 AM

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Hmmm. First photo looks more like a margined but the second fuzzy one is intriguing.  That you caught 10 is amazing. I rarely got more than 2 with a backpack shocker.  Can you get a clearer photo?  The blotch on the caudal peduncle and the white lower cheek are good diagnostic characters as well as the stippling

 



#30 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:35 AM

What habitat were you catching the madtoms from?  In the current under rocks or from root balls and leaf litter?

 

All leaf litter near currents, some bark and one or two from small rocks.



#31 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:37 AM

Madtoms+_2_.JPG

 

Madtoms+_1_.JPG



#32 Dustin

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:39 AM

That bottom fish looks like a margined.  I wonder if maybe you go both.  Margined from the rocks and broadtails from the leaf litter.  Maybe the flatheads haven't made it up that far yet...


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#33 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:42 AM

That bottom fish looks like a margined.  I wonder if maybe you go both.  Margined from the rocks and broadtails from the leaf litter.  Maybe the flatheads haven't made it up that far yet...

I was just thinking that, the first few madtoms had these broad tails, so I thought they were broadtails but I def caught some margined too. Hard to get pics of since I am on the move and these little guys like to sting.



#34 fritz

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:45 AM

The photo is a fish from the Little Pee Dee River. I think Dustin helped catch it



#35 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:45 AM

The shiner on pic 12 dustin, no idea? I caught a bunch of these, they had a really large eye that stood out more than in the pics.



#36 Dustin

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:55 AM

Pic 8 is a swallowtail I think.  The big eye makes me thing sandbar on 12 but nothing else about the pic does.  I'm not sure.


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#37 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:58 AM

Pic 8 is a swallowtail I think.  The big eye makes me thing sandbar on 12 but nothing else about the pic does.  I'm not sure.

Nice, I was going to guess Swallowtails on most of them.



#38 gerald

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 11:19 AM

My guesses on the other shiners:

 

#1 - whitefin ???  (bad angle for ID)

#8 - swallowtail

#11-12 - sandbar

#2 +16 - highfin and dusky are both in upper Lynches - could be either one.

 

madtoms:  I dont know about these guys, but margined madtoms farther east don't always have the dark fin margins that they're supposed to have.


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#39 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 11:23 AM

My guesses on the other shiners:

 

#1 - whitefin ???  (bad angle for ID)

#8 - swallowtail

#11-12 - sandbar

#2 +16 - highfin and dusky are both in upper Lynches - could be either one.

 

madtoms:  I dont know about these guys, but margined madtoms farther east don't always have the dark fin margins that they're supposed to have.

Okay, thanks for the info, great little spot.



#40 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 11:23 AM

Okay, thanks for the info, great little spot.

Fritz was working on the madtoms, he thinks that at least two are possible Broadtails and the rest Margined.





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