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#41 Dustin

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 03:33 PM

Pretty sure 1 and 2 are yellowfins.

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#42 taldridge0321

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 04:09 PM

Pretty sure 1 and 2 are yellowfins.

Nice. That Stoneroller came up with the Bluehead Chub and two giant Blackbanded Darters. Thanks for the id's.



#43 UncleWillie

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 10:18 AM

I will try to reference the photos best I can.  I agree with most of the IDs.

 

You have both blackbanded darters and Halloween darters.  These species do co-occur down there.  Post #5 is a blackbanded.  See how the dorsal saddles are spaced out?  It looks like there is a black saddle, then a blank space about the size of another saddle, and then another black saddle.  Now look at Post #6, which is a Halloween.  The black saddles have much less blank spacing in between.  Using this characteristic, #2, #25, and #26 appear to be Halloweens, whereas #5 and #11 look like blackbandeds.

 

The topminnow in #12 and #27 are lined topminnow (F. lineolatus).

 

The shiners in #3, #4, and #13 are blacktail shiners (C. venusta).

 

The minnows in #7 and #10 are longjaw minnows (N. [Ericymba] amplamala).  Don't get these confused with longnose minnow (N. longirostris), which co-occur, may look similar at first, but have very different head/mouth morphology, and in my experience, a "chunkier" caudal peduncle.

 

The minnows in #8, #9, and even the little guys in #36 and #37 are all Dixie chubs (S. thoreauianus).

 

The shiner in #16 is Apalachee shiner (P. grandipinnis).

 

The minnow in # 38 is a stoneroller, and I'll leave it at that.  And the minnow in #39 is a bluehead chub.


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#44 taldridge0321

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 06:25 PM

I will try to reference the photos best I can.  I agree with most of the IDs.

 

You have both blackbanded darters and Halloween darters.  These species do co-occur down there.  Post #5 is a blackbanded.  See how the dorsal saddles are spaced out?  It looks like there is a black saddle, then a blank space about the size of another saddle, and then another black saddle.  Now look at Post #6, which is a Halloween.  The black saddles have much less blank spacing in between.  Using this characteristic, #2, #25, and #26 appear to be Halloweens, whereas #5 and #11 look like blackbandeds.

 

The topminnow in #12 and #27 are lined topminnow (F. lineolatus).

 

The shiners in #3, #4, and #13 are blacktail shiners (C. venusta).

 

The minnows in #7 and #10 are longjaw minnows (N. [Ericymba] amplamala).  Don't get these confused with longnose minnow (N. longirostris), which co-occur, may look similar at first, but have very different head/mouth morphology, and in my experience, a "chunkier" caudal peduncle.

 

The minnows in #8, #9, and even the little guys in #36 and #37 are all Dixie chubs (S. thoreauianus).

 

The shiner in #16 is Apalachee shiner (P. grandipinnis).

 

The minnow in # 38 is a stoneroller, and I'll leave it at that.  And the minnow in #39 is a bluehead chub.

Thanks! It was a great trip. I'll have to go back and fish for Shoal Bass though.



#45 Isaac Szabo

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 07:42 PM

Looks like a fun trip. You got some neat fish. Thanks for sharing.

 

I don't know these species as well as you local guys, but wouldn't the topminnows have to be russetfin? I didn't think lined occurred west of the Ocklocknee drainage.



#46 taldridge0321

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 05:54 AM

Looks like a fun trip. You got some neat fish. Thanks for sharing.

 

I don't know these species as well as you local guys, but wouldn't the topminnows have to be russetfin? I didn't think lined occurred west of the Ocklocknee drainage.

Thanks, was a great trip, anytime. I was hoping the same thing about the Lined Topminnows being Russetfins.



#47 centrarchid

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:37 AM

Trying not to be rude but did you see what the adult Bluegill looked like.  I Shoal Bass present then Bluegill could have been as well.


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#48 taldridge0321

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 10:53 AM

Trying not to be rude but did you see what the adult Bluegill looked like.  I Shoal Bass present then Bluegill could have been as well.

Sorry, there has been a lot of comments so I missed yours. I didn't run into many Bluegills except near SC on this trip. Mostly Dollar Sunfish and Bluespots.



#49 taldridge0321

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 10:54 AM

Sorry, there has been a lot of comments so I missed yours. I didn't run into many Bluegills except near SC on this trip. Mostly Dollar Sunfish and Bluespots.

 

The Shoal Bass area on the Flint River where I was at seemed more of a rod and reel location. Deeper water that you couldn't effectively dip net in.





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