Pretty sure 1 and 2 are yellowfins.
Flint River, Little Patsilia Creek and Beaver Creek, GA
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taldridge0321
, Dec 11 2016 05:56 PM
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#43
UncleWillie
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 10:18 AM
I will try to reference the photos best I can. I agree with most of the IDs.
You have both blackbanded darters and Halloween darters. These species do co-occur down there. Post #5 is a blackbanded. See how the dorsal saddles are spaced out? It looks like there is a black saddle, then a blank space about the size of another saddle, and then another black saddle. Now look at Post #6, which is a Halloween. The black saddles have much less blank spacing in between. Using this characteristic, #2, #25, and #26 appear to be Halloweens, whereas #5 and #11 look like blackbandeds.
The topminnow in #12 and #27 are lined topminnow (F. lineolatus).
The shiners in #3, #4, and #13 are blacktail shiners (C. venusta).
The minnows in #7 and #10 are longjaw minnows (N. [Ericymba] amplamala). Don't get these confused with longnose minnow (N. longirostris), which co-occur, may look similar at first, but have very different head/mouth morphology, and in my experience, a "chunkier" caudal peduncle.
The minnows in #8, #9, and even the little guys in #36 and #37 are all Dixie chubs (S. thoreauianus).
The shiner in #16 is Apalachee shiner (P. grandipinnis).
The minnow in # 38 is a stoneroller, and I'll leave it at that. And the minnow in #39 is a bluehead chub.
Willie P
#44
taldridge0321
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 06:25 PM
I will try to reference the photos best I can. I agree with most of the IDs.
You have both blackbanded darters and Halloween darters. These species do co-occur down there. Post #5 is a blackbanded. See how the dorsal saddles are spaced out? It looks like there is a black saddle, then a blank space about the size of another saddle, and then another black saddle. Now look at Post #6, which is a Halloween. The black saddles have much less blank spacing in between. Using this characteristic, #2, #25, and #26 appear to be Halloweens, whereas #5 and #11 look like blackbandeds.
The topminnow in #12 and #27 are lined topminnow (F. lineolatus).
The shiners in #3, #4, and #13 are blacktail shiners (C. venusta).
The minnows in #7 and #10 are longjaw minnows (N. [Ericymba] amplamala). Don't get these confused with longnose minnow (N. longirostris), which co-occur, may look similar at first, but have very different head/mouth morphology, and in my experience, a "chunkier" caudal peduncle.
The minnows in #8, #9, and even the little guys in #36 and #37 are all Dixie chubs (S. thoreauianus).
The shiner in #16 is Apalachee shiner (P. grandipinnis).
The minnow in # 38 is a stoneroller, and I'll leave it at that. And the minnow in #39 is a bluehead chub.
Thanks! It was a great trip. I'll have to go back and fish for Shoal Bass though.
#45
Isaac Szabo
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 07:42 PM
Looks like a fun trip. You got some neat fish. Thanks for sharing.
I don't know these species as well as you local guys, but wouldn't the topminnows have to be russetfin? I didn't think lined occurred west of the Ocklocknee drainage.
#46
taldridge0321
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Posted 14 December 2016 - 05:54 AM
Looks like a fun trip. You got some neat fish. Thanks for sharing.
I don't know these species as well as you local guys, but wouldn't the topminnows have to be russetfin? I didn't think lined occurred west of the Ocklocknee drainage.
Thanks, was a great trip, anytime. I was hoping the same thing about the Lined Topminnows being Russetfins.
#48
taldridge0321
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Posted 14 December 2016 - 10:53 AM
Trying not to be rude but did you see what the adult Bluegill looked like. I Shoal Bass present then Bluegill could have been as well.
Sorry, there has been a lot of comments so I missed yours. I didn't run into many Bluegills except near SC on this trip. Mostly Dollar Sunfish and Bluespots.
#49
taldridge0321
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Posted 14 December 2016 - 10:54 AM
Sorry, there has been a lot of comments so I missed yours. I didn't run into many Bluegills except near SC on this trip. Mostly Dollar Sunfish and Bluespots.
The Shoal Bass area on the Flint River where I was at seemed more of a rod and reel location. Deeper water that you couldn't effectively dip net in.
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