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#41 sbtgrfan

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Posted 30 May 2017 - 06:50 AM

10-larval of some species of leatherback
11-florida pompano
12-kingfish (not northern)
19-black drum
25-both permit
26-permit
27-northern puffer
28-planehead filefish (possibly pygmy filefish)
29-northern puffer
30-chain pipefish

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South Carolina Aquarium
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#42 taldridge0321

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Posted 30 May 2017 - 07:45 AM

 

10-larval of some species of leatherback
11-florida pompano
12-kingfish (not northern)
19-black drum
25-both permit
26-permit
27-northern puffer
28-planehead filefish (possibly pygmy filefish)
29-northern puffer
30-chain pipefish

 

Thanks for the id's!



#43 lilyea

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Posted 30 May 2017 - 09:01 PM

Stephen - thanks for the ID info.  After some research I now understand some of the visual differences between the chain pipefish and the gulf pipefish (length of snout & number of bars), but how do you tell the difference between northern and southern puffer?  Is it just range or are there visual differences? Thanks.



#44 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:28 AM

Here's a bigger Puffer, last fish of the trip.IMG_0442+_1_.JPG



#45 lilyea

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 06:26 AM

#44 appears to be a striped burrfish.



#46 Chasmodes

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 08:42 AM

Nice report and catches.  Based on the above responses, I think the IDs are pretty good.  I thought juvenile spadefish too for #s 25 and 26.


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#47 littlen

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 10:47 AM

Juvenile Spades already have their stripes--at least on their faces/heads at that size whereas the Permit are either all silver or dark [when stressed].

spades.jpg


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#48 4WheelVFR

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 10:51 AM

Great thread.  I've spent some time around Folly Beach, SC and have always wondered what lurked nearby.  It would be interesting to grow some of these out in a huge tank.  I love native salties.



#49 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:03 AM

Great thread.  I've spent some time around Folly Beach, SC and have always wondered what lurked nearby.  It would be interesting to grow some of these out in a huge tank.  I love native salties.

We found most of the saltwater fish on Sullivan's Island Beach, near the rocks. The Permit and Puffers were all mixed in with clusters of seaweed. 



#50 littlen

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 01:05 PM

You should head back towards the end of summer, and you should be able to net up some cool, sub-tropical species.....angels, tangs, squirrelfish, butterflies, and a few other Caribbean-goers.  Former co-workers of mine used to get them up in Long Island, NY.


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#51 taldridge0321

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 02:32 PM

You should head back towards the end of summer, and you should be able to net up some cool, sub-tropical species.....angels, tangs, squirrelfish, butterflies, and a few other Caribbean-goers.  Former co-workers of mine used to get them up in Long Island, NY.

Sounds good, thanks for the tip!



#52 Chasmodes

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:39 PM

Nick, you are correct.  I did an internet image search for "juvenile permit" and there are some photos that look identical.


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#53 gerald

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 10:08 AM

what's a leatherback?

 

10-larval of some species of leatherback

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#54 sbtgrfan

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 11:59 AM

what's a leatherback?

 

 

I meant leatherjacket...my bad!


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South Carolina Aquarium
Charleston, SC

#55 fritz

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 01:13 PM

10 - mullet - 2 dorsal fins

11 - Fl pompano

12 - southern kingfish

13 - Atl silverside

16 - I have no idea.  Fins are too far back to be a ladyfish

19 - black drum

20 - naked goby

25 - permit - red pelvic fins

27 - hard to tell from that angle but maybe a northern or possibly a bandtail puffer

28 - planehead filefish

30 - chain pipefish

and striped burr fish



#56 fritz

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 02:33 PM

OK. the consensus at my lab is that 16 is a ladyfish after all.  The fins migrate forward after transformation



#57 taldridge0321

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 02:55 PM

OK. the consensus at my lab is that 16 is a ladyfish after all.  The fins migrate forward after transformation

Thanks for the id's. The Ladyfish was a very mean looking little guy haha.



#58 sbtgrfan

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 10:42 PM

10 - mullet - 2 dorsal fins
11 - Fl pompano
12 - southern kingfish
13 - Atl silverside
16 - I have no idea.  Fins are too far back to be a ladyfish
19 - black drum
20 - naked goby
25 - permit - red pelvic fins
27 - hard to tell from that angle but maybe a northern or possibly a bandtail puffer
28 - planehead filefish
30 - chain pipefish
and striped burr fish

10 really a mullet? Looks completely different as larval I guess. The initial quick ID here at my office was leatherjacket but I see the two dorsal fins now. Also makes sense if they were caught in mass quantities
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South Carolina Aquarium
Charleston, SC

#59 fritz

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 06:55 PM

Yep, the silvery body is a give away along the two dorsals





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