mike i thought when we talked we discussed Friday morning because we all had work off for good friday. thats what i had made arraignments for on my end with my wife and family that day. we have easter on sunday and i need to prepare my house for 65 guests!! lol. is friday available for you mike?

You are correct I'm all mixed up it was Friday morning sorry.

josh did you see this? just making sure that you know its 930am tomorrow. although ill prob be there around 9am. mike have you seen the regional creeks? how they looking? im thinking fox creek might be very hard....and the middle of the schoharie might be to fast. but further down on fox creek might work (past where we caught the killifish and josh fell)

josh did you see this? just making sure that you know its 930am tomorrow. although ill prob be there around 9am. mike have you seen the regional creeks? how they looking? im thinking fox creek might be very hard....and the middle of the schoharie might be to fast. but further down on fox creek might work (past where we caught the killifish and josh fell)

I seen it, i will try and make it but it means i will have almost no sleep the night before.

I really want to replace my rock bass.

I remember our first trip we got darters in a small stream that was barely a trickle, maybe that would be samplable now.

I seen it, i will try and make it but it means i will have almost no sleep the night before.

I really want to replace my rock bass.

I remember our first trip we got darters in a small stream that was barely a trickle, maybe that would be samplable now.

lol by the looks of your comment it still seems you're confused. cuz the "night before" comment is actually right now lol. so you are speaking as if its to come and not right now. im leaving my house in an hour. hopefully you understood that its TODAY and not next friday

good time today...found more spots where rainbows have established themselves!! as soon as i threw another male with my single male the original male turned black and followed him around. i cant believe how dark he got and his teal really stood out.

Well, it looked like it might be a washout when we made our first stop at Schoharie creek. You drive down a steep driveway to the fishing access site parking lot and it had obviously been under water recently as the lot and field, about an acre, was covered with mud. The creek was still a good five feet higher then normal summer level even the tiny trib next to the lot. So on to Fox creek in the town of Schoharie another wash out.

So east on Rt 443, we stopped at a small trib to Fox creek and found several slimy sculpins, a couple creek chubs, a central stoneroller and a couple blacknose dace. I'd never sampled this little creek before but was glad to find the sculpins as I'd told Firstchaos I'd found sculpins in Fox Creek the first time he came to NY to collect but none had shown up in the few times he's come till today.

We then tried a spot on Fox creek I've sampled during high water a couple times before because it has some large sand/gravel bars that provide relatively slower and shallower spots tro sample safely while the main flow tumbles by in the main channel. We found one rosyface shiner, several central stonerollers, blacknose and longnose dace, creek chubs, a nice male fantail darter, and 2 adult male and 3 female rainbow darters.

Rainbows are a first this far up fox creek which was about 6 miles east by road from the spot we found them in May of 2009. I filed a report. Unfortunately the landowner came (wasn't posted) and asked us to leave as they'd had some issues with the DEC and feared they'd be fined if the DEC found anyone taking anything out of the creek. Turns out the DEC found someone removing rocks and fined them and warned the landowner that if they tried removing the gravel bars they'd get a $10,00 fine because they might damage the crayfish population. I said I understood and we left...with the fish. We catch literally hundreds of crayfish in Fox creek, Schoharie creek and even more in Cobleskill creek. So in this case I'd worry more about making the crayfish population angry then damaging them, they might unite and overwhelm the area.

The redside dace site was too deep to sample effectively so we got a couple tesselated darters, a couple brook sticklebacks and the usual blacknose dace and creek chubs.

We then tried a couple smaller creeks near Altamont one a wash out of deep sand and silt but the other was nice. We found a bunch of small blacknose dace and other minnows for feeding my young longnose gar, a 3 inch largemouth bass, a possible world record fat creek chub over 9 inches long with a mouth that easily engulfed my thumb, a bunch of white suckers, bluntnose and fathead minnows. Also picked up a few small moss covered rocks which I've tried keeping before. They lasted a fair amount of time but gradually died off but suppied some fine darter snacks in the meanwhile. So we only took 1 or 2 each and left the rest.

Then we headed back to try and find a trib off Fox creek nearer to the Schoharie creek but ran out of time.

The weather was great, the fishing fun so all in all not a bad day....but then I only had to drive 30 minutes to get home .

it took me 2 hours to get home...took me 3 hours to get there....same amount of traffic...which was none...i looked at my speed towards the end and saw i was going 90. i didnt even realize it. i walked in my house at 7:18pm....here i thought i would be late for 8. lol

I noticed my New York Tesselated Darter I got on that trip has noticably darker markings than my one from New Hampshire. The NH one is very pale and faded markings wise, only lightly browner than the body. The New York one has bold black markings on its brown body. Is this a gender differences, a regional difference, or just an exampkle of individual variation?

I noticed my New York Tesselated Darter I got on that trip has noticably darker markings than my one from New Hampshire. The NH one is very pale and faded markings wise, only lightly browner than the body. The New York one has bold black markings on its brown body. Is this a gender differences, a regional difference, or just an exampkle of individual variation?

my new york tesselateds ARE very dark as well. the ones we got last year are very dark almost a maroon shine to them