it's about having thoughtful posts
Heh heh, that rules ME out!
I don't have any strong opinions here - let's just see how this plays out. I trust the forum staff in these matters.
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Posted 07 July 2010 - 11:44 PM
it's about having thoughtful posts
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 07:32 PM
What percentage of forum users work for state agencies or the academic field? What percentage have access to or own expensive photo equipment bought with grant money? What percentage hold collection permits and/or get access where others do not?
Edited by Michael Wolfe, 08 July 2010 - 07:34 PM.
Posted 08 July 2010 - 07:36 PM
We're not really trying to tell people how to do things. We figured we'd put it out there and see what happens. Chaos? maybe...
The original intent was to make people think before posting.
It also is a form of self-moderation. The moderators are always accused of being heavy-handed when deleting posts/topics. You will see that a number of posts have a handful of negative votes. That is your fellow forum members indicating that they don't believe the post belongs.
Posted 08 July 2010 - 08:42 PM
Posted 08 July 2010 - 09:19 PM
I guess I really do not see the use in this system either as it is ambiguous and easily abused. I do not think that I would have agreed to implementing it. As Mike stated for some reason this seem to be a system that quickly turns things sort of "Highschool" with the Jocks and the Geeks duking it out over turf... I do not think that all have the Maturity or understanding of it's use in a manner as defined. Nor is it being well explained to the users of the forum about the appropriate use of this with the intended purpose, which is content and not charecter.
Posted 08 July 2010 - 10:15 PM
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 10:59 AM
Oh. Was that all you wanted, was some outreach?
INVITED PRESENTATIONS & SYNERGISTIC ACTIVITIES
• The Maumee River Drainage Network - "It" Rolls Downhill. Friends Earthcare Witness, Bowling Green, OH.
• Aquatic Diversity of the Toledo Area. GK-12 Summer Course for Fellows and Teachers, University of Toledo, Toledo, OH.
• Lucas County Big Day for Fishes - Field trip sampling four aquatic environments across Lucas County for Fishes, Toledo Naturalists Association, Toledo, OH.
• Geologic and Botanical Context for the Michigan Botanical Society Spring 2010 Foray, Perrysburg, OH. (also organized all the field trips)
• Licking the Wounds – An overview of Toledo Area streams: Their Provenance, Perils & Progress, Start High School , Toledo, OH.
• Meet Your Stream – Fishes of the Blanchard River. Field trip with the Toledo Naturalists Association, Findlay, OH.
• The Secret Lives of Unionid Mussels. Washtenaw County Parks, Milan, MI.
• Ecological dimension and adaptation of fish community in Ten Mile Creek. Invited field trip and lab activity with the Field Ecology course. Lourdes College, Sylvania, OH.
• Enhancing Environmental Education and Careers: Restoration Project for the Ottawa River at the University of Toledo. Toledo Early College High School, Toledo, OH.
Monitoring E. coli in the Swan Creek System (MESS). University of Toledo & Lourdes College, Toledo & Sylvania, OH (January 2010 – ongoing) Developed collaboration between University of Toledo researchers and Lourdes College Field Biology course for citizen scientist investigation of sewage-generated bacterial issues in the Swan Creek Watershed. This is part of the GLISTEN program: http://www.ncsce.net...es/GLISTEN.cfm.
Enhancing Environmental Education and Careers: Restoration Project for the Ottawa River at the University of Toledo. Toledo Early College High School, Toledo, OH (January 2010 – May 2010) Working with a cohort of TECHS students on a three year river restoration project on the campus of the University of Toledo to promote careers and environmental engagement among the students.
Scott High School Stream Team. Scott High School, Toledo, OH (January 2010 – April 2010) Worked with a select group of Environmental Science juniors and seniors at an urban high school to apply a model of stream processes to the landscape scale of Toledo, Ohio. The activity helped hone scientific method, environmental appreciation, and produced study skills necessary for survival in college courses.
Quoted and photography appeared in “Bite Sized Fish”, full page color Sunday Feature, The Toledo Blade, May 30, 2010. (http://www.toledobla...ART16/100539984) (check out the pdf!)
Interviewed on Environmentally Sound with Larry Burns. WJR760 April 27, 2010.
Quoted in “High school students help investigate large fish kill.” Ohio Outdoor News, February 26, 2010.
Quoted in “UT student to receive Brundage Scholarship”, The Toledo Blade, January 18, 2010. (http://www.toledobla.../NEWS04/1180312)
Quoted in “Scott's watershed team gets immersed in work”. The Toledo Blade, December 13, 2009. (http://www.toledobla...IST22/912130359)
Yeah, boy, a $20k salary can go a long way! Especially when I'm paying out of pocket to collect my data so I can graduate some day, since no agencies have small grant programs any longer. Man, I'm just rollin' in this liberal conspiracy! Or maybe you'd just like to see what I was doing when I was actually getting paid to work, instead of the former pro bono time...
http://www.farmertodd.com/streamtable/ (this is how I spent my Brundage Award - on this stream table and then gas money to drive people to streams that aren't so screwed up - bills, we have loans for bills)
Oh, then there's those pesky 5 papers I need to write, and the unionid data I collect as a two week class with area high school teachers in Lake Erie where there "aren't" any unionids because of zebra mussels. Did I go a couple places with people who were non-academic, non-agency, using fishing licenses too? I sort of recall that. Somewhere.
So, I apologize that I couldn't find time to write any of this up for your satisfaction in AC or on the Forum. This spring, was, um, a little bit busy. But you're right, it was me and everyone else.
Posted 09 July 2010 - 12:33 PM
Posted 09 July 2010 - 01:06 PM
All part of the bigger issue which is where does the line between native fish hobbyests and professionals fall and where does NANFA fit in.
I'm seeing mutually exclusive Masters there.
Posted 09 July 2010 - 01:15 PM
Posted 09 July 2010 - 01:26 PM
It's not about keeping a man down... It's about keeping a man from making 975 posts since April 2010!
And I guess I was totally wrong about membership. I was just looking for something, anything, to get the protein content of posts back up. I was making a suggestion based on those who've at least made a financial commitment to this organization. I personally think the rating thing is silly, but I'm game for anything at this point.
Should we just settle for the lowest common denominator? Let our signal be saturated by noise?
I mean, c'mmon... Lance had to EMAIL me to let me know he'd post stuff from our MO trip, and I had overlooked the thread at least twice (based on when I checked the Forum those days and other posts on it) you know, since I was "putting up".
Edited by bumpylemon, 09 July 2010 - 01:31 PM.
Posted 09 July 2010 - 02:42 PM
Posted 09 July 2010 - 02:48 PM
Bumpy, no one is telling you or anyone else not to post and the last thing we want is for anyone to be afraid to post. We are just asking that you monitor what you post more efficiently and the you in this is not specifically you, but collective. I read nearly every post that is made on the forum but I comment maybe ten times a week. Is this because I couldn't come up with something witty to say? No, it's because I don't think I have anything useful to add to the converstation that hasn't already been stated. I have started less than twenty topics since the inception of the forum. Again, not because I couldn't come up with something to post but because I haven't had anything novel to open up for discussion.
Edited by bumpylemon, 09 July 2010 - 02:58 PM.
Posted 09 July 2010 - 02:50 PM
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