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[gerald]

In the 90's Robert Rice sent me a group of young "Eglin sailfins" -- they had a thin but intense red-gold stripe running along the upper edge of the black stripe, a feature not seen in Doug's photo.   Is that a juvie character that adult males lose?  Unfortunately they also had little white dots that looked very much like ich, but did not respond to ich treatment, and remained in place for weeks, which ich does not do.  I never figured out what this parasite was or how to treat it, but it eventually killed all the fish, slowly over a few months. 

[Josh Blaylock]

I wish I had gotten better photos at the time,  I was in a rush and had the family in the car.  I seem to recall that Red-Gold, but I was North of Eglin AFB.

[Doug_Dame]

In the 90's Robert Rice sent me a group of young "Eglin sailfins" -- they had a thin but intense red-gold stripe running along the upper edge of the black stripe, a feature not seen in Doug's photo.   Is that a juvie character that adult males lose?  Unfortunately they also had little white dots that looked very much like ich, but did not respond to ich treatment, and remained in place for weeks, which ich does not do.  I never figured out what this parasite was or how to treat it, but it eventually killed all the fish, slowly over a few months. 

 

My main computer is down and I can't get to other or higher rez photos of the "Eglini" fish.

 

But I do not recall that they had the thin line that you describe. But some/all of what I think of as "still hypselopterus" do have a colored line; Page & Burr say "broad steel blue stripe along side bordered above by a thin pink to red line," and I have also seen red-gold on fish I believed to be hypselopterus. 

 

I don't know if Jason Allen found evidence of hypselopterus+grandipinnis hybrids. But I don't think there's supposed to be range overlap between the two, and to my eye this Eglin-grandipinnis location is west of the grandipinnis range, over in hypselopterus territory.

 

It's all still mysterious, pending more fish to study. 

[Mysteryman]

WOW!!!  That's IT!  You guys really found it.  AWESOME.

Magnificent, isn't it?

I've got to GET some. I'm cranking out Flagfins in my basement, and they're cool, sure, but man, I want some of THOSE babies.

 

 

Josh, the fish in Doug_Dame's avatar is a Flagfin. See the red edges on yellow fins? See the bright sulphur-yellow spots on the caudal peduncle? ( well, maybe not so much in this picture ) That's a Flagfin.  Sailfins have red spots on the peduncle.

[Josh Blaylock]

 

Josh, the fish in Doug_Dame's avatar is a Flagfin. See the red edges on yellow fins? See the bright sulphur-yellow spots on the caudal peduncle? ( well, maybe not so much in this picture ) That's a Flagfin.  Sailfins have red spots on the peduncle.

 

 

Yeah, I caught Flagfin's, I've caught them before so I knew what they were.

[Josh Blaylock]

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[Mysteryman]

Yep, that's them. Well, some of them.

[Josh Blaylock]

Yep, that's them. Well, some of them.

Coastal Shiners and Clear chubs also in there

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[Kanus]

I'm not an expert on Pteronotropis varieties, but those from Josh's tank look identical (to me) as some that I caught in Bay County FL. They had a neon pink stripe above the dark stripe and yellow/orange fins like this.