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#21 taldridge0321

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 03:53 PM

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#22 taldridge0321

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 03:53 PM

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#23 taldridge0321

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 03:53 PM

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#24 taldridge0321

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 03:54 PM

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#25 taldridge0321

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#26 taldridge0321

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 03:54 PM

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#27 taldridge0321

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#28 taldridge0321

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 05:04 PM

These look a little different, kinda thinner and longer, no idea.Shelby+_3_+_Large_.JPG



#29 taldridge0321

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 05:04 PM

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#30 taldridge0321

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 05:04 PM

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#31 Dustin

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 08:18 AM

Here's what I see:

 

4-8 Carolina fantail darter

9, 13, 23-25 tesselated darter

11, 14-16, 22 greenhead shiner

12, 21 rosyside dace

26-27 white sucker

1-3 I really have no idea

10 a Pimephales maybe, or a distorted shot of a white sucker

17-20, 28-30  gaunt, about to die Carolina fantail

 

Couple new species for you there.


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At the convergence of the Broad, Saluda and Congaree
Lexington, SC


#32 UncleWillie

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 08:18 AM

Suckers are hard to tell (maybe white), but you got some fantail darters, too.  Aret eh other shiners saffron? greenheads?  Dustin beat me!


Edited by UncleWillie, 28 July 2016 - 08:19 AM.

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#33 Dustin

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 08:19 AM

Willie, he's a long way from saffron territory.  Those are greenheads.  I agree on the sucker.  I am speculating white.


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Lexington, SC


#34 gerald

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 12:45 PM

First minnow might be hypsinotus the Highback chub (genus in dispute - maybe Hybopsis, Notropis ...?) or if not that then possibly Whitemouth shiner.

Fantail and Tesselated darters.  Did you find any seagreens? Small seagreens look intermediate (to me) between Fantail and Tessie, but adults are obvious.

Rosyside dace and "Broad River Greenhead" shiner (which may be an intergrade between true Greenhead (Catawba) and Yellowfin shiners)

Keep an eye out for Thicklip chub -- another odd little minnow i've seen around Shelby.  Greenfin and Fieryblack shiners too.


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#35 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 02:26 PM

Here's what I see:

 

4-8 Carolina fantail darter

9, 13, 23-25 tesselated darter

11, 14-16, 22 greenhead shiner

12, 21 rosyside dace

26-27 white sucker

1-3 I really have no idea

10 a Pimephales maybe, or a distorted shot of a white sucker

17-20, 28-30  gaunt, about to die Carolina fantail

 

Couple new species for you there.

Sweet man! So they were Carolina Fantails awesome. Caught another one today lol, sorry man. Also got a Northern Hog Sucker which I have always been wanting. Also caught a small shiner that had red lips, hope its a redlip shiner. Will post some more pics later, thanks man.



#36 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 02:28 PM

First minnow might be hypsinotus the Highback chub (genus in dispute - maybe Hybopsis, Notropis ...?) or if not that then possibly Whitemouth shiner.

Fantail and Tesselated darters.  Did you find any seagreens? Small seagreens look intermediate (to me) between Fantail and Tessie, but adults are obvious.

Rosyside dace and "Broad River Greenhead" shiner (which may be an intergrade between true Greenhead (Catawba) and Yellowfin shiners)

Keep an eye out for Thicklip chub -- another odd little minnow i've seen around Shelby.  Greenfin and Fieryblack shiners too.

 

I didn't see any seagreens but I looked today as well. Got another Carolina Fantail today and maybe a redlip shiner and a northern hog sucker. Posting the pics today. I tried all day to get that thicklip chub, got some kind of fish today that may be it, will post pics. Thanks for the id's.

 

Tim



#37 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 02:34 PM

Sweet man! So they were Carolina Fantails awesome. Caught another one today lol, sorry man. Also got a Northern Hog Sucker which I have always been wanting. Also caught a small shiner that had red lips, hope its a redlip shiner. Will post some more pics later, thanks man.

 

By the way that was the place you told me about, the first broad river. There is a little creek also that was full of Darters. It's not a very well known spot so its really good. Thanks for the heads up. I am hitting up the next two places next week.



#38 taldridge0321

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 02:35 PM

Suckers are hard to tell (maybe white), but you got some fantail darters, too.  Aret eh other shiners saffron? greenheads?  Dustin beat me!

 

Carolina Fantails apparently so I am thrilled, Dustin gave me the heads up haha. And last week I caught the Carolina Darter so I am pretty stoked. Still no Madtoms ugh.





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